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this is another episode of UFO garage

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I'm Ben I'm Joe and this is where we

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talk about UFOs aliens and all things

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weird oh yeah dude and we are two sides

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of the coin

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[Laughter]

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shout out to two uh that one time I was

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abducted by aliens

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that's actually that's actually their

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thing yeah we stole it dude we stole it

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so for this episode of least well see if

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they're paying attention yeah yet yeah

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maybe though maybe they'll message us

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hey hey we're not gonna steal a we

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promise we just want to do that cuz it

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was funny thanks for uh thanks for the

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shout out on you on y'all's podcast that

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was uh it was so nice yeah that was the

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least we could do is return the favor

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yeah so check out that one time I was

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abducted by aliens yep it's on iTunes

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and Spotify and with Bree and Jamie Bree

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and Jamie yeah and they are they are two

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sides of the coin they are two sides of

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the coin and so are we now and sides of

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the coin yes you were a four sided coin

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yeah that's that's a six sided coin oh

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that's a dice and we were six sides of

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the dice yeah so dude we're back this is

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kind of like our first formal episode

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again from getting back from California

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which was amazing awesome yeah Lorien

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thank you so much for inviting us to be

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there like it was freaking awesome some

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of the best interviews I've had some of

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the best speakers that I've listened to

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mind blown every single day yes so

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awesome absolutely do not let me down

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like as far as expectations went right

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right what about what about the guy that

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so if anybody for those of you who don't

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know or didn't see in any of the videos

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from UFO Khan we're sitting at this

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booth in this

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gallery area or all the booth people are

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or whatever and there's this gentleman

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nice guy super nice it was cool but he

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was doing like sound healing and every

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time we tried to start recording he

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would have a customer come up and he

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would like he had this remember we saw

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him like bring out those huge horns like

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you didn't know what they were they was

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like the one from the reco low

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commercials like like eight-foot tall

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like metal horns and yeah these people

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would just like sit on this table and

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then right in between their legs just

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and we're trying to like have this

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interview in this dudes in the

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background like shakin bells and

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blushing ching ching ching man sound

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healing the balls yeah [\h__\h] made me

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sick I know that that was weird

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weird that weird frequency they know it

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was pretty crazy man that was pretty

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crazy but yeah man I mean that was that

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was a fun time we got to hang out with

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Eric Mitchell we helped him out a little

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bit with his uh this with his speech and

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you know stuff like that and definitely

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check out Eric Mitchell and his story

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it's incredible unfortunately we didn't

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get a whole lot of an interview with him

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on the show we'll reach out to him here

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but man yeah it was cool shout out to

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Dave Scott man thanks for being cool and

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hanging out with us and you know just uh

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being an awesome dude man that was that

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you know just uh you know cuz he does

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[\h__\h] with somebody else who does this

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kind of stuff yeah really really neat

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much more legit I might add his radio

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show versus ours oh yeah so if you

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haven't heard of Dave Scott go check out

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spaced-out radio yeah pretty awesome

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also if you haven't checked out a UFO

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garage podcast Oh welcome yes thanks for

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listening yes yeah man it was good stuff

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we had a really really good time yeah so

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now I guess we're gonna oh yeah tonight

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on the show we've got mr. Olaf Phillips

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publisher he worked for paranoia

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magazine there's also paranoia TV you

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stuff he's done some work with Clyde

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about that like is he still doing it

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yeah I don't know if he's still doing it

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whatever but he's kind of like a

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behind-the-scenes hero man like he's

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researching I mean the guy is a genius

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amount of detail that he goes in with

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his research is freakin awesome I always

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wonder like these like people like us

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that have podcast like it's really hard

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to do both like talk about your research

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interesting he's a great writer so I'm

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ready to pick his brain tonight

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probably get into some some secret space

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program stuff some legit secret space

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program stuff and maybe some Betty and

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Barney Hill the truth behind Betty and

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Barney Hill story he's talking about

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something pretty interesting with that

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so that's gonna be pretty exciting man I

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feel like we kind of had like a bad

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taste left in our mouth when it came to

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the secret space program cuz ya just

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didn't you know we just didn't know like

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what to say like yeah how do we know now

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this whole thing that we kind of strayed

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away from it so I'm glad he's gonna be

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on tonight yeah maybe he can set some

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speaking with Lorien and Melinda they

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had said that oh yeah so-and-so stole a

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lot of his content from these people so

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right I mean I always thought oh they're

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well they're this doesn't mean that

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there's no secret space right it's exist

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so now it's really cool to like okay

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well all that excitement I had

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behind this story there's actually

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someone that can back it up with with

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documentation definitely yeah

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so yeah that's gonna be pretty cool man

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but yeah so Ben and Joe we're two sides

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of the coin six sides of the coin and so

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now we're gonna get into our Facebook

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stuff man you guys have been busy

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posting while we've been uh I wouldn't

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say relaxing because we definitely been

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pretty busy and all this stuff put

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I've been real I've been real he's not

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I'm a guy alright let's get into this

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before I Olaf it's time to call Olof

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so we're gonna go through this the

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Facebook group feed a lot of our people

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that listen to the show are a part of

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the you the UFO garage podcast Facebook

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group page so we like to go through this

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to go through this and talk about some

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stuff that people have posted so yeah

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dude yeah so the first one Joseph thank

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you for posting round earth skeptic Mad

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crash so I thought that dude had already

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died he's launched himself a few times

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yeah but dude yes he has but also when I

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clicked on that video I didn't know

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who's gonna watch a man die

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oh dude like yeah if you click on that

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video you watch someone die crazy

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it doesn't shoot yeah dude I mean that's

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that's it's pretty messed up so I guess

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in the end the only thing flat was him

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oh no or is it too soon I didn't know I

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mean it's come full circle but I mean I

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guess it's I mean it's kind of what you

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rounded statements right yeah oh I saw

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the earth is flat yeah

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suck or it was totally like total

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validation for his life he was like

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flat what if he did go up and he was

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still convinced that it's fine he took a

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picture of it and it was flat and then

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like we just never saw it cuz it crash

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via the government around Earth or

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earthers so that the truth wouldn't get

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out there alright man next

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Gary yeah to Voorhies our man Gary he's

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got his own YouTube channel now so go

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and check him out support him subscribe

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give him likes give him love dude he's

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almost got more subscribers than us of

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course I mean the guy's awesome yeah of

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course since I mean our show is it that

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big yeah yeah just Gary Voorhees G AR y

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the plug dude yeah she ate it we have a

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accurate description of the show right

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yeah it was great yeah you don't want to

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one of my favorite shows I you know it

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gets me through my day it keeps it to

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the lighter side of this topic yeah you

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might not want to listen to it out loud

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at work it's not very not headphone

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friendly yeah I mean you tell a dick

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so 2/dx walk into a bar alright so check

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this out next to the cane enables by the

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way I'm dude that sounds Able's wait

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that's cane okay missed canes fried

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chicken I always mix those up cuz candy

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enables with this restaurant it's in the

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Bible on No well that too but there was

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also a restaurant on King James Street

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on West Campus oh [\h__\h] see me like the

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King James Bible yeah okay so Joseph you

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posted about this uh I mean come on guys

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it's Flair's I love it well is that the

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joys of living in by Fort Hood which I

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used to live by Fort Hood and I've never

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seen anything like this but I'm seeing

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flares yeah

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not at Fort Hood but other places and

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yeah okay so breaking this this image

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orange orbs or just whitish orbs yeah

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obvious trail of where these

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don't know what else the smoke and the

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lights those are those are flares

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absolutely flares yeah I used to live on

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Fort Hood - oh yeah yeah that's all I

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have to say okay I used to live there

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too but yeah like everybody was freaking

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out on like people were calling the

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police and the news oh my god

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posted on facebook everybody was

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freaking out and I mean people that are

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kind of used to seeing this kind of

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stuff yeah I think we're all we were all

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thinking the same thing I mean honestly

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if you live on one of the largest

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military bases in the world you're

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probably gonna see flares every now and

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then yeah you're gonna hear bombs right

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here all kinds of sprite so my sighting

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story by Fort Hood that was not what I

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saw by the way these lights stayed in

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the sky that were much larger than that

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there was no smoke cloud and just

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hovered for about 15 minutes

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much larger way different so that's not

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what different yeah Dan yeah deeper side

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CK the quantum Elon Musk yes getting

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interviewed by George Knapp about his

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abduction experience super cool dude

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we agree Dan I really would like to try

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and get him on the show so yeah it might

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be a little difficult because we

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probably will be product we might be a

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little too smart right right because

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we're doctors and some doctors and

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scientists and deep he's just like a

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quantum guy he just deals in the quantum

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world I mean you know yeah yeah I mean

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but I'd love to have him on see if you

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can see if he can keep up with us you

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know I would be curious as well because

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like sometimes I need to like dumb

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things down for other people absolutely

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run circles around us it would probably

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stop the interview like you guys are

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[\h__\h] [\h__\h]

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he's like one brain cells like smarter

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than both of our full brain

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he's gonna be like hey we're gonna be

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like what does that mean are you

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speaking Spanish you speaking Spanish or

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no yeah but that that interview with him

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and talking about his experience is

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really awesome I mean he's a smart guy

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what were you saying like he has his own

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company and he's working with yeah we

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like he was just talking about like you

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know like nanotechnology and there was

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an interview that I was watching where

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he was talking about how like we could

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turn future technology you know and make

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it like you know make it work with like

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things around us like how like basically

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he could integrate this this this you

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know nanotech into like trees and like

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how how trees could act as cell phone

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towers or you know what produce

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electricity but they are still trees

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like that's what you know they're just

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natural trees just integrated with this

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technology was it was pretty crazy man

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so imagine if you could go into the

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forest and just plug your phone into a

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tree or like like I don't get very good

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cell reception here but the Wi-Fi is

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great yeah you know like Wi-Fi yeah that

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would be pretty awesome I don't know I

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think that would like take the

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experience out of nature for me but I

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mean for some people it might make

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camping a little bit more more tolerable

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I don't know it might yeah I wonder what

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the like what the the use of that would

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be would it be like the trees would make

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energy because they're connected to

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elect no no idea I have no idea

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I either way it's [\h__\h] cool that just

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goes to prove our point that we're

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I'm bumbling through all my thoughts so

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like what if there's like this stuff and

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what and the tree does the thing in the

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their phone and like there's people I

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just want some ice cream

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can I have some ice clone to carve a

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corn corn two scoops please toast cos

359
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dude hey are you a waffle cone guy are

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you sugar cone guy

361
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waffle cone waffle cone yeah cuz you can

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fit more ice cream in it yeah I don't

363
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understand the sugar cone people okay

364
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the sugar can do the sugar cone peep so

365
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you know I really do like about sugar

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cones at the last bite when there's all

367
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this ice cream at the bottom yeah and

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then that's that last bite you know I'm

369
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talking about it yeah yeah yeah totally

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I get that but but I better than the

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waffle cone last bite is it alright to

372
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me it is yeah okay yeah yeah I mean they

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both kind of have the same experience

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but but the waffle comes a little harder

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a little more crunchy next post by Dan

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this is really cool so the his post is I

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was reading in the enchanted egg written

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in 1956

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so he's reading a to skid and on one of

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the pages it says okay let's click on it

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here come on Internet come on what was

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that it's like turn into a giant mouse

383
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now the hand is bigger this is weird

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here we go Oh so one of the pages is

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landing in the middle of his prize

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tulips and in quotes is it a flying

387
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saucer in quotes he shouted in quotes

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certainly not said mrs. Robin it's an

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enchanted egg but dude

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flying saucer in a children's book yeah

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like look at that look at that egg like

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it looks kind of like a Chinese

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depiction of a UFO of like an egg it

394
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looks like a Chinese also there elms

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dude and his name is dinky how funny oh

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how exciting cried dinky put your okay I

397
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won't have to order that on Amazon now

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Oh so dude I wonder if I wonder if Myles

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has this book in his archives oh if he

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doesn't he should yeah it

401
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says flying saucer in the book yeah we

402
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should ask you should have it

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hey do you have the enchanted egg you

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like what Wow okay read page okay it's

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it's it's eight pages try read page four

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you're gonna want to see this it's the

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it's the page right after the cute

408
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little duckling it's groundbreaking

409
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it's so awesome oh yeah Paul Heine oh

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yeah the little sticker that was cool so

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we got to meet and hang out with Paul hi

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Nick a bunch last weekend yeah it was

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pretty awesome yeah I I love a guy I

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mean he he gave us so much [\h__\h] okay he

415
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was like an old friend so we had this

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thing we're like we were where we were

417
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we were kind of nervous to like talk to

418
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him Rika's like we didn't know like what

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to say really we're like you know you

420
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know like what like how to start the

421
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topic like you know like are we talking

422
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about Paul or are we talking about your

423
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dad or like do we talk about both really

424
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so he's kind of a big deal yeah he's

425
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really but he was really cool dudes and

426
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so finally finally we we talked to him

427
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during the during the VIP where you get

428
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to meet everybody you know that little

429
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whole little session that evening and we

430
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were like Paul we were like hey man it

431
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was like you know he was asking like

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like why how come he hasn't gotten

433
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interviewed yet and we were like oh we

434
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were like well you know how like in high

435
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school were like you know like you're

436
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kind of like the nerdy guy within like

437
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you see like the super hot chick in high

438
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school or like you're like COD

439
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intimidated to talk to them cuz you

440
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don't know what to say is like oh so I'm

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a woman you guys are rap bastards

442
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yeah and then he went over and talked to

443
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Jocelyn right he was talking to Joss and

444
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she was like have you have you met Ben

445
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and Joey yeah from the UFO garage oh

446
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yeah yeah

447
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madam I'm still waiting to be on the

448
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show and so I gave him this sticker

449
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right and he was like thanks Sookie but

450
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uh yeah

451
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so he really secretly really hates us

452
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secretly probably so we're gonna have

453
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Paul Hynek on the show soon hopefully

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either way

455
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hopefully I wonder if we should send the

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email out and be like your favorite rat

457
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bastards yeah that's pretty funny the

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little little meme huh you know on that

459
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picture though also I was like oh he

460
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gave her sticker back then I was like oh

461
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but he signed it that's way cooler oh so

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I guess the next really interesting pose

463
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Dan posted again a Dan your old fire

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Brown fire a li alien really an

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interception 1977 I I had seen this

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before but it's been a while and man I

467
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mean we listen to a little bit of it but

468
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it's the creepiest looking thing it

469
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looks it looks recently edited though

470
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but it says that it was made in 1987 the

471
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cut in between the game show or whatever

472
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this is and and and and to this like

473
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static or whatever the transition is

474
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like this modern kind of movie style VHS

475
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glitch kind of thing yeah well that's

476
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just edited you know thank you like

477
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maybe it was like a disgruntled employee

478
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yeah who just knew how to operate the

479
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equipment at the time and he's all like

480
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a little microphone but it's a really

481
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creepy thing if you guys haven't seen it

482
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y'all should watch it I mean it's it's

483
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kind of like talking about a lot of the

484
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things that abductees say that they

485
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experience is like this overwhelming hey

486
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guys get your [\h__\h] together yeah yeah

487
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y'all are y'all are messing - playin it

488
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up so anyway I won't explain the whole

489
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thing check it out alright what's the

490
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next one UFO at Space Station 22 minutes

491
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I've been seeing a lot of these dude I

492
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had to yeah

493
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see a lot of these like the the

494
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spacestation stuff and a lot of okay

495
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what's the difference between space junk

496
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and a UFO it's like under intelligent

497
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control right and it's just the shape

498
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yeah yeah so you have to see the the the

499
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object pretty clearly to see the shape

500
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of what this thing is if you're off in

501
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the distance and it's blurry and it just

502
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goes by the screen really fast in one

503
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trajectory it's probably space debris it

504
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could be small or just it might be just

505
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[\h__\h] like poop oh yeah like poop like

506
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space boot space poop bro do you imagine

507
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how much space poop is up there well no

508
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no no cuz I think space poop would

509
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eventually like like going to like

510
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retrograde it like burn up in the

511
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atmosphere right you think I mean what

512
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if it's a really like a fibrous a

513
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fibrous substance I think what well

514
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because I mean I think they have to I

515
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think there's still too close to the

516
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earth for anything to like just float

517
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out how come it would have to like be

518
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acted upon by something else to like

519
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float out of orbit well then how come

520
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there's so much space debris flying

521
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around and it doesn't go in a retrograde

522
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I mean I think it does eventually and it

523
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just a long time dude what if what if a

524
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lot of the shooting stars that we see is

525
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actually just it probably is de bris it

526
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probably is de bris falling towards the

527
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center of the earth space yeah cuz I

528
00:24:10,810 --> 00:24:08,990
know like even satellites every now and

529
00:24:12,370 --> 00:24:10,820
then they have to like nudge them yeah

530
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cuz they keep getting closer to Earth so

531
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yeah kind of like that yeah oh yeah it

532
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was good hey I told you I was impressed

533
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but told you the idea that that the the

534
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space program

535
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you know the Trump's that Trump space

536
00:24:37,150 --> 00:24:36,170
program should have the you know the

537
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:37,160
suits that they're coming out with yeah

538
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:39,170
they should have took camo they should

539
00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:44,210
have like hiding from space trees what

540
00:24:50,770 --> 00:24:48,220
they have like stars okay you guys okay

541
00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:50,780
but they but they should have they

542
00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:52,820
should have holes okay this is another

543
00:24:56,140 --> 00:24:54,230
poop joke but they should have holes of

544
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:56,150
it at the rear because dude what if you

545
00:25:01,900 --> 00:24:58,970
get thrown out in space and you're out

546
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:01,910
of you know trajector the air what are

547
00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:02,930
you gonna do you're gonna use your body

548
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:23,140
might save your life very slowly that

549
00:25:26,380 --> 00:25:25,010
would be that would be crazy cuz I mean

550
00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:26,390
I'm mad like if something happens in

551
00:25:30,250 --> 00:25:28,070
like you start tumbling and you just

552
00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:30,260
tumble into space like there's nothing

553
00:25:34,270 --> 00:25:32,030
to stop you from tumbling yeah you're

554
00:25:48,370 --> 00:25:34,280
just gonna keep going yeah so what you

555
00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:48,380
just you're just floating out in space

556
00:25:54,730 --> 00:25:51,080
and you have little like air left and

557
00:25:58,030 --> 00:25:54,740
you know that you're screwed that's we

558
00:26:00,960 --> 00:25:58,040
should make a movie about would you just

559
00:26:05,590 --> 00:26:00,970
take your helmet off yeah probably yeah

560
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:05,600
[\h__\h] it probably I mean yeah you're not

561
00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:08,510
gonna live anyway I would rather get it

562
00:26:10,990 --> 00:26:08,870
over with

563
00:26:21,270 --> 00:26:11,000
I would I would hold hogan rip open my

564
00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:25,000
okay what's next found a rare carbon

565
00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:28,190
Gary posted found a rare carbon dioxide

566
00:26:32,020 --> 00:26:30,200
breathing alien it's a photo of this

567
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:32,030
little grass blade with

568
00:26:36,370 --> 00:26:34,610
feels like a caterpillars eating through

569
00:26:41,410 --> 00:26:36,380
the side of it and it like makes little

570
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:41,420
eyes that's [\h__\h] awesome okay so more

571
00:26:48,220 --> 00:26:44,450
on this Colleen oh yeah the flares

572
00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:48,230
flares huh super man yeah definitely

573
00:26:52,090 --> 00:26:49,700
flares definitely players that's cool

574
00:26:53,980 --> 00:26:52,100
it's our shout out from Gary this is a

575
00:26:55,810 --> 00:26:53,990
cool shirt that you have well they did

576
00:26:58,900 --> 00:26:55,820
they write I think you wrote it write

577
00:27:01,930 --> 00:26:58,910
that in there Sony's post on the garage

578
00:27:03,970 --> 00:27:01,940
where manly men do manly things oh yeah

579
00:27:07,810 --> 00:27:03,980
brother but yeah we should making sure

580
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:07,820
like that latest UFO sightings you did

581
00:27:11,980 --> 00:27:09,110
you get a chance to see that one create

582
00:27:13,930 --> 00:27:11,990
oh yeah creates from El Paso yeah yep

583
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:13,940
and then there's like a plane that flies

584
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:16,610
by like a jet oh [\h__\h] sorry could we

585
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:19,760
watch it real quick it's uh it's four

586
00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:21,650
minutes and 36 seconds long okay cool

587
00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:23,750
well then oh people will know about it

588
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,220
then y'all can go watch it yeah

589
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,200
definitely go check it out yeah he's is

590
00:27:34,270 --> 00:27:29,120
channel is pretty interesting if you huh

591
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:34,280
do so oh yeah oh yeah so Gary's

592
00:27:39,670 --> 00:27:37,850
announcing the the you apx going to

593
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:39,680
launch that's yeah cool archive

594
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:42,530
initiative so archives I love it man

595
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:44,570
I love the the initiative to archive

596
00:27:48,580 --> 00:27:46,490
things you know you everything's just

597
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:48,590
all in your brain are like in a Google

598
00:27:52,690 --> 00:27:50,330
Doc somewhere right good to have a

599
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:52,700
physical thing like you know it was you

600
00:27:58,930 --> 00:27:56,510
know your idea for the museum you know

601
00:28:01,570 --> 00:27:58,940
the the far in the future of museum an

602
00:28:02,860 --> 00:28:01,580
archive man I just I love that idea

603
00:28:05,980 --> 00:28:02,870
hell yeah I think it'd be a great idea

604
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:05,990
yeah I didn't I didn't click on this I

605
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:08,450
just check on that one either yeah sorry

606
00:28:15,930 --> 00:28:10,730
yeah we'll go get to it

607
00:28:31,049 --> 00:28:15,940
sorry sharpen this one's great etext

608
00:28:44,850 --> 00:28:42,570
oh yeah Justin's episode yeah so that

609
00:28:46,110 --> 00:28:44,860
William hosted that about that song he

610
00:28:48,989 --> 00:28:46,120
said after listening to your episode

611
00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:48,999
with Justin and that song yeah yeah

612
00:28:53,489 --> 00:28:51,580
Justin's episode man it's one of my

613
00:28:53,999 --> 00:28:53,499
favorite so far yeah it was definitely a

614
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:54,009
good one

615
00:28:58,049 --> 00:28:56,110
it's it's like he just he was really

616
00:29:01,019 --> 00:28:58,059
well read and spoke really well about

617
00:29:03,330 --> 00:29:01,029
his ideas and it was just nice it was

618
00:29:04,019 --> 00:29:03,340
like a fresh perspective yeah on the

619
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:04,029
whole thing

620
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:05,980
he's right like most of this stuff is

621
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:10,090
like what is it and oh it's Light Beings

622
00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:13,090
or like this is cool and stuff like that

623
00:29:18,930 --> 00:29:16,360
which is exactly how we are he's like no

624
00:29:21,989 --> 00:29:18,940
yeah you guys are dumb yeah it's not

625
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:21,999
cool they enslave you looking dangerous

626
00:29:27,419 --> 00:29:25,809
right and it's dangerous you don't wanna

627
00:29:28,590 --> 00:29:27,429
mess well yeah so that was cool if you

628
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:28,600
didn't get to check out Justin's

629
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:30,970
interview check out Justin's interview

630
00:29:34,919 --> 00:29:32,769
yeah it's great it's it's not it's a

631
00:29:37,109 --> 00:29:34,929
perfect timing it's not long enough but

632
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:37,119
it's like it's a great it's a great

633
00:29:42,299 --> 00:29:38,740
interview I'd like to have a more a

634
00:29:45,570 --> 00:29:42,309
longer format which he suggested we

635
00:29:47,070 --> 00:29:45,580
talked to his colleague but man yeah I'd

636
00:29:49,169 --> 00:29:47,080
love to hear more about the new message

637
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:49,179
I want to know more about that the new

638
00:29:55,169 --> 00:29:52,409
message and the new massage oh oh

639
00:29:58,159 --> 00:29:55,179
there's a photo with George Noory what's

640
00:30:03,919 --> 00:29:58,169
up George I like your thing about the

641
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:07,409
we'll skip over my post I mean yeah I

642
00:30:16,739 --> 00:30:12,850
guess we won't but yeah this guy right

643
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:16,749
in sight what's his name Jimmy yeah if

644
00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:18,490
you guys if you guys follow Jimmy on on

645
00:30:22,289 --> 00:30:20,980
YouTube bright insight he just posted a

646
00:30:23,419 --> 00:30:22,299
new video that's really awesome he's

647
00:30:27,330 --> 00:30:23,429
kind of connecting the ancient

648
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:27,340
civilizations to like one one connection

649
00:30:33,630 --> 00:30:31,090
it's pretty cool Jimmy Jimmy was Jimmy

650
00:30:41,850 --> 00:30:33,640
was off the hook

651
00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:41,860
was off with that uh man what was the

652
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:44,500
name of that movie I was it grind I

653
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:46,960
think that movie grind and it had Tom

654
00:30:51,270 --> 00:30:49,570
Green it was on this he was the owner of

655
00:30:54,150 --> 00:30:51,280
the skate shop and they're like do you

656
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:54,160
guys miss Jimmy Jimmy was here they were

657
00:31:05,789 --> 00:30:55,690
like Jimmy was here he was like yeah

658
00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:05,799
Jimmy was like she was like oh dude I

659
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:07,540
want to try the Tom Green beer

660
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:09,370
oh [\h__\h] hey if any of you guys out there

661
00:31:14,970 --> 00:31:11,500
have had the Tom green beer let me know

662
00:31:16,740 --> 00:31:14,980
cuz it doesn't get distributed Oh down

663
00:31:23,159 --> 00:31:16,750
here yeah so yeah I go somewhere else

664
00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:23,169
and buy it yeah yeah commies this was

665
00:31:26,850 --> 00:31:23,860
ridiculous

666
00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:26,860
okay so it's Amex post Nicolas Nicolas

667
00:31:34,650 --> 00:31:32,070
dude so it's all odd future shows of

668
00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:34,660
what's the actual show called I have no

669
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:36,790
idea man what's Action Bronson watching

670
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:38,530
ancient aliens with talent Tyler the

671
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:42,070
Creator and a bunch of his friends like

672
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:44,260
the first 30 seconds is about the show

673
00:31:47,940 --> 00:31:45,880
and the rest of it they're jumping on

674
00:31:50,130 --> 00:31:47,950
trampolines and [\h__\h] getting their nails

675
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,140
done and stuff it was hilarious

676
00:31:54,450 --> 00:31:52,480
we laughed it's a great thing all right

677
00:31:56,159 --> 00:31:54,460
perfect timing because I think we need a

678
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:56,169
little like maybe 10 minutes before we

679
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,440
have a little prep yeah okay okay so if

680
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:01,120
you guys have just skipped through all

681
00:32:06,690 --> 00:32:04,030
of that intro stuff to right here get

682
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,700
ready to have Olaf on Olaf on we'll be

683
00:32:09,540 --> 00:32:08,080
right back yeah we'll be right back

684
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:09,550
after these messages

685
00:32:11,850 --> 00:32:09,850
[Music]

686
00:32:18,919 --> 00:32:11,860
[Applause]

687
00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:18,929
[Music]

688
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:22,630
all right Olaf Phillips is with us

689
00:32:26,909 --> 00:32:24,490
ladies and gentlemen Olaf how are you

690
00:32:28,139 --> 00:32:26,919
doing today man I'm doing all right how

691
00:32:30,269 --> 00:32:28,149
are you know we're doing really really

692
00:32:31,529 --> 00:32:30,279
good man we're super excited to have you

693
00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:31,539
on the show

694
00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:35,200
we met at UFO Con Dave actually

695
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:38,620
introduced us and it you know it's crazy

696
00:32:42,980 --> 00:32:40,210
because he didn't really hit it really

697
00:32:46,049 --> 00:32:42,990
give us too much of a backstory on you

698
00:32:48,389 --> 00:32:46,059
and then I and then uh you know after

699
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:48,399
after we met we started kind of looking

700
00:32:53,999 --> 00:32:51,279
into you and and dude you you you do a

701
00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:54,009
lot of stuff man I'm extremely impressed

702
00:32:58,830 --> 00:32:56,830
you like I got behind the scenes hero

703
00:33:01,560 --> 00:32:58,840
kind of a guy man that's awesome

704
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:01,570
yeah I'm not I'm not a limelight

705
00:33:09,149 --> 00:33:05,610
speaking conferences kind of person yes

706
00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:09,159
yeah man I mean so if you don't mind

707
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:11,080
just for some of the you know people who

708
00:33:16,619 --> 00:33:13,090
may not know who you are kind of like

709
00:33:18,060 --> 00:33:16,629
kind of like we were kind of just tell

710
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:18,070
our audience man a little bit about

711
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:21,970
yourself bro well I'm the publisher and

712
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:25,090
I'm a writer for paranoid magazine the

713
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:29,340
oldest still in publication conspiracy

714
00:33:36,869 --> 00:33:33,610
alternative news kind of magazines

715
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:36,879
footing in the United States I think it

716
00:33:42,450 --> 00:33:39,129
was originally founded in like 91 that's

717
00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:42,460
I'm still pregnant I've been on a bunch

718
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:44,500
of different TV shows I've been on UFO

719
00:33:51,749 --> 00:33:47,850
Hunters unearthed with Scot Walters in

720
00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:51,759
where on earth I was on a show in Italy

721
00:33:57,690 --> 00:33:55,870
called wager on Rai Dewey I've been on a

722
00:33:59,430 --> 00:33:57,700
lot of different podcasts and radio

723
00:34:03,210 --> 00:33:59,440
shows I've been on Ground Zero

724
00:34:06,629 --> 00:34:03,220
coast-to-coast been on

725
00:34:10,050 --> 00:34:06,639
oh boy with someone the caravan to

726
00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:10,060
midnight nice Dave show I've been on all

727
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:14,710
kinds of podcasts that's cool today I do

728
00:34:19,859 --> 00:34:16,960
I do a lot of different research I do

729
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:19,869
research into foreign policy I do

730
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:24,290
research in UFOs exotic aircraft

731
00:34:31,010 --> 00:34:28,350
cryptids I'm a 14 so if it's 14 and I do

732
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:31,020
it yeah yeah so dude I mean you're into

733
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:33,450
I mean a little bit of everything it

734
00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:38,810
sounds like yeah I get a little bit 1488

735
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:50,790
a DD so do you you had mentioned uh you

736
00:34:55,849 --> 00:34:53,609
know the Ground Zero stuff were you like

737
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:55,859
a producer it's at some point for for

738
00:34:59,630 --> 00:34:58,170
clive and ground zero yeah I was yeah it

739
00:35:01,700 --> 00:34:59,640
was the executive producer that's

740
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:01,710
awesome and you still do you still work

741
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:03,720
with him at all or is it do you do

742
00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:04,980
awesome man

743
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:07,830
I'm on it yeah I'm I'm a pretty big fan

744
00:35:14,180 --> 00:35:11,490
of that show my editor-in-chief is his

745
00:35:16,660 --> 00:35:14,190
producer now awesome man that's where

746
00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:16,670
I'm really cool that's really cool man

747
00:35:21,980 --> 00:35:20,070
yeah dude so I don't even know where to

748
00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:21,990
start cause like you do so much cool

749
00:35:27,410 --> 00:35:25,020
stuff I uh I actually downloaded the

750
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:27,420
paranoia TV on Roku I have a Roku it's

751
00:35:31,490 --> 00:35:29,730
so I've been I've been right on yeah

752
00:35:34,430 --> 00:35:31,500
I've been I've been all over that stuff

753
00:35:37,609 --> 00:35:34,440
and uh I mean I'm in some of those yes

754
00:35:40,849 --> 00:35:37,619
I've seen him I've seen it was the

755
00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:40,859
paranoid traveller yes I did a paranoid

756
00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:43,020
traveller I have more episodes coming

757
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:43,800
soon

758
00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:45,540
I had to upgrade my computer so now I

759
00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:48,540
can edit five more five more that I've

760
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:52,740
done yeah then I was on some other ones

761
00:36:02,060 --> 00:35:55,530
in there too that's great man that's

762
00:36:03,770 --> 00:36:02,070
great well dude I mean I'm curious if

763
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:03,780
maybe we could talk a little bit about

764
00:36:08,930 --> 00:36:06,510
maybe secret space program stuff because

765
00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:08,940
me and general we've we've talked about

766
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:12,420
the secret space program for awhile and

767
00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:14,250
there were some misleading stuff in the

768
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:16,350
beginning of our research and it kind of

769
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:17,670
all fell apart but I've always been

770
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:19,710
really excited about the idea and I've

771
00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:21,330
always wanted to talk to somebody that

772
00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:23,160
actually has some knowledge and has done

773
00:36:28,070 --> 00:36:25,350
the research on on the actual not the

774
00:36:30,410 --> 00:36:28,080
possibility but the actuality of a

775
00:36:32,780 --> 00:36:30,420
secret space program so man I just love

776
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:32,790
to hear what what you got on on that

777
00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:35,970
whole thing well well the the point the

778
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:37,590
point of view that I came from

779
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:42,210
was it eons ago more than 20 years ago I

780
00:36:50,890 --> 00:36:48,240
saw a TV show called alternative 3 this

781
00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:50,900
was a TV show originally produced in

782
00:36:58,820 --> 00:36:54,000
1977 it was shown on April 1st I was

783
00:37:00,200 --> 00:36:58,830
supposed to be shown in yeah it was

784
00:37:01,930 --> 00:37:00,210
supposed to be shown in June but there

785
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:01,940
were some sort of scheduling conflicts

786
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:05,940
and so basically it was a kind of

787
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:08,670
docudrama and you'll you'll recognize

788
00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:10,110
some of the actors in it like Shane

789
00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:12,180
Rimmer and others right I feel lunch

790
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:14,040
British science fiction movies he's all

791
00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:16,680
over them he was in UF the TV show UFO

792
00:37:24,110 --> 00:37:20,600
and all these bad science fiction you

793
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:24,120
know I saw like a 20th generation VHS

794
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:30,000
copy it was awful into it I had a

795
00:37:36,830 --> 00:37:32,970
terrible terrible green the tracking was

796
00:37:39,230 --> 00:37:36,840
completely blown out on it tracking for

797
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:39,240
those of you who remember VHS oh yeah

798
00:37:45,770 --> 00:37:42,960
yeah yeah but I started to come to the

799
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:45,780
opinion of that it could possibly be

800
00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:48,090
real because it was very specific in a

801
00:37:53,060 --> 00:37:51,060
lot of ways the the show is extremely

802
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:53,070
specific which these kinds of shows

803
00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:54,900
generally aren't and I thought that was

804
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:57,060
very intriguing so I left them alone for

805
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:00,720
a while and then what I got me I was

806
00:38:04,430 --> 00:38:02,490
living in England and I got this email

807
00:38:06,350 --> 00:38:04,440
from this guy he says oh I thought

808
00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:06,360
you're interested in alternative theory

809
00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:07,980
and I said yeah and he says I've got

810
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:10,140
master I said well that's funny because

811
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:11,910
all the Masters were destroyed in a fire

812
00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:14,850
huh interesting right so how do you have

813
00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:16,470
a master he says don't worry about it I

814
00:38:21,020 --> 00:38:18,600
got it from somebody would you like a

815
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:21,030
copy I said sure he said and so he says

816
00:38:25,580 --> 00:38:23,370
ok I'll send you a copy so he meant so

817
00:38:27,260 --> 00:38:25,590
one day I come home from work and the

818
00:38:30,140 --> 00:38:27,270
Royal Mail deliver this big manila

819
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:30,150
envelope with no return address and I

820
00:38:34,010 --> 00:38:31,890
open it up and there's a DVD inside

821
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,020
about the DVD in and boom there's

822
00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:36,240
alternative three off a master beautiful

823
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:38,790
copy so I started yeah so I start

824
00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:42,240
watching it again and I really dawn on

825
00:38:48,830 --> 00:38:45,240
me I'm like you know something is

826
00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:48,840
telling me that this is real and if this

827
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:51,000
is real

828
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:52,290
so we all get to what it's about a

829
00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:54,450
minute but if it's real then these

830
00:38:58,190 --> 00:38:56,190
things they talk about I should be able

831
00:39:00,740 --> 00:38:58,200
to find them right right

832
00:39:01,190 --> 00:39:00,750
right so right and this is a long time

833
00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:01,200
ago

834
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:04,350
this is you know this is minute probably

835
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:08,430
almost 14 years ago what the show is

836
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:12,090
about extensively is about something

837
00:39:17,620 --> 00:39:14,490
called a brain ring on the 70s a lot it

838
00:39:20,570 --> 00:39:17,630
this is true in the 70s a lot of workers

839
00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:20,580
high-tech workers of the 70s we're

840
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:22,440
leaving England because the pay was poor

841
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:23,910
and they were going to other places in

842
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:26,850
Europe like Germany France and you know

843
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:28,800
Scandinavia because the pay was a lot

844
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:30,510
better so they were losing a lot of

845
00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:32,130
scientists technicians that kind of

846
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:35,430
thing so it's about that in in during

847
00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:39,210
the show they unwittingly stumble upon

848
00:39:45,470 --> 00:39:42,240
this vast conspiracy and basically the

849
00:39:50,420 --> 00:39:45,480
conspiracy is this is that we're all

850
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:50,430
screwed and when Eve and and go

851
00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:52,770
somewhere else and the idea was to go to

852
00:39:58,580 --> 00:39:55,700
the go to Mars by way of the moon

853
00:40:00,680 --> 00:39:58,590
yeah so they came up three alternatives

854
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,690
the first two were do the first

855
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:02,400
alternative was to try to fix the

856
00:40:06,530 --> 00:40:04,650
problem and it fixed a problem they

857
00:40:09,830 --> 00:40:06,540
wanted to fire a nuclear missile height

858
00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:09,840
and detonated at high altitude would and

859
00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:11,790
hopefully blow a hole in the atmosphere

860
00:40:16,580 --> 00:40:13,470
invent all the carbon dioxide in the

861
00:40:23,330 --> 00:40:16,590
space I know it sounds ridiculous yeah

862
00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:23,340
they they tried it Australia no it was

863
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:25,320
in the south it was in South Atlantic

864
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,820
okay yeah okay the second idea was to

865
00:40:33,530 --> 00:40:31,920
build bunkers and then the third idea

866
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:33,540
was to leave and go to Mars

867
00:40:38,570 --> 00:40:36,510
oh wait a moment so I thought well

868
00:40:40,910 --> 00:40:38,580
that's interesting well if it's true and

869
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:40,920
these things should be reproducible

870
00:40:47,150 --> 00:40:43,260
right so the first thing they talked

871
00:40:48,530 --> 00:40:47,160
about was that in 1958 I believe there

872
00:40:50,690 --> 00:40:48,540
was a meeting of the American Chemical

873
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,700
Society where basically everybody agreed

874
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:52,800
that we're all screwed so I went back to

875
00:40:55,550 --> 00:40:53,910
1958

876
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:55,560
I found the meeting of the American

877
00:41:00,770 --> 00:40:58,530
Chemical Society and there was a guy his

878
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:00,780
name escapes me at the moment but he did

879
00:41:07,780 --> 00:41:03,210
this vast he was part of an ocean

880
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,790
they I want to say it was a was it was

881
00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:09,599
it was part of an oceanographic

882
00:41:12,770 --> 00:41:11,430
institute one of the famous ones it

883
00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:12,780
starts with an S but I can't remember

884
00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:17,400
them and he he he did this massive study

885
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:21,260
of phytoplankton and in 1958 he he

886
00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:24,000
realized and documented the fact that

887
00:41:28,370 --> 00:41:25,740
the phytoplankton were not converting

888
00:41:30,559 --> 00:41:28,380
carbon dioxide into oxygen fast enough

889
00:41:32,210 --> 00:41:30,569
and the quote that they always saw out

890
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:32,220
about him is that he said the word were

891
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,210
undertaking an experiment and a risky

892
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:38,160
experiment so grand

893
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:40,290
we can't even possibly imagine what the

894
00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:42,569
outcome will be and basically he said

895
00:41:47,690 --> 00:41:44,190
that deal they do to over

896
00:41:50,089 --> 00:41:47,700
industrialization that you know that our

897
00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:50,099
ecosystem will eventually collapse this

898
00:41:55,010 --> 00:41:53,609
is in 58 Wow okay yeah so now fast

899
00:41:56,780 --> 00:41:55,020
forward to 2020 and we have climate

900
00:42:00,200 --> 00:41:56,790
change right I'm right I'm sitting here

901
00:42:02,089 --> 00:42:00,210
in dark California and it's winter it's

902
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:02,099
not raining and I'm probably going into

903
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,740
another drought when I was a kid right

904
00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:06,720
now if he's storming like crazy we got

905
00:42:10,789 --> 00:42:09,420
thunder and lightning you know and I

906
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:10,799
haven't even seen any thunder or

907
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:13,609
lightning here in a year Wow sound crazy

908
00:42:18,980 --> 00:42:16,410
well I went through an entire an entire

909
00:42:22,549 --> 00:42:18,990
season where there was like two days of

910
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:22,559
rain which is ridiculous so you know we

911
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:23,520
couldn't wash our cars

912
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:25,380
everybody's lawns died you know we

913
00:42:29,059 --> 00:42:26,940
couldn't water to our lawns nothing

914
00:42:31,609 --> 00:42:29,069
right so climate change climate change

915
00:42:34,010 --> 00:42:31,619
is real whatever you think causes it

916
00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:34,020
good for you but it does exist right

917
00:42:36,829 --> 00:42:34,619
right

918
00:42:38,809 --> 00:42:36,839
so the first alternative was the fire

919
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:38,819
this rocket in a high altitude and

920
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:41,880
detonated and so I when I looked and

921
00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:43,380
looked and looked and it turns out not

922
00:42:48,859 --> 00:42:46,500
long after that they had attempted this

923
00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:48,869
project called Project Argos was Argos

924
00:42:53,450 --> 00:42:51,030
heart attack or heart attack are guests

925
00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:53,460
of an annular choice and basically what

926
00:42:56,569 --> 00:42:54,839
they did is they went down to the South

927
00:42:59,059 --> 00:42:56,579
Atlantic with this huge fleet of these

928
00:43:00,940 --> 00:42:59,069
super sophisticated ships and they

929
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:00,950
launched a missile it's the highest

930
00:43:08,059 --> 00:43:05,280
highest nuclear detonation ever and they

931
00:43:11,299 --> 00:43:08,069
fire to rock it up and boom set it off

932
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:11,309
now they were trying to trying to test

933
00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:12,930
this thing called the Coriolis effect

934
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:15,780
where this guy had hypothesized that if

935
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:16,800
you detonated a nuclear

936
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:19,050
weapon at high altitude you can create

937
00:43:28,970 --> 00:43:22,470
another another ring like a radiation

938
00:43:31,730 --> 00:43:28,980
shell okay but also you know it was to

939
00:43:34,580 --> 00:43:31,740
fulfill this fantasy of ripping holes in

940
00:43:38,180 --> 00:43:34,590
the atmosphere right so the second the

941
00:43:40,610 --> 00:43:38,190
second option is to build bunkers and to

942
00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:40,620
live underground and you know I don't

943
00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:42,000
really need to tell you that we built

944
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:45,240
bunkers yeah but there's a there there's

945
00:43:50,510 --> 00:43:47,690
something interesting about that so the

946
00:43:53,090 --> 00:43:50,520
Soviets took this whole thing so

947
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:53,100
seriously I believe that they built two

948
00:43:57,980 --> 00:43:56,400
bunkers one is called a gamma tau and

949
00:44:00,380 --> 00:43:57,990
the other is called Cosmo tab and there

950
00:44:01,790 --> 00:44:00,390
are these huge mountains and basically

951
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:01,800
what they did is they went in and

952
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:04,110
hollowed out the entire Mountain now to

953
00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:06,450
tell you in the case of gamma tau the

954
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:10,440
mountain is so huge that it that it uh

955
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:13,380
it actually has a garrison or it had a

956
00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:15,930
garrison so these soldiers on the side

957
00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:16,680
of the mountain

958
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:20,520
the garrison L 50,000 people oh damn huh

959
00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:22,680
right so they hold it out the entire

960
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:24,180
Mountain there are rail lines that run

961
00:44:27,770 --> 00:44:26,370
into the mountain is supposedly the home

962
00:44:29,540 --> 00:44:27,780
of the dead hand switch but they had

963
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:29,550
problems so they went to Cosmo to hand

964
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:31,530
the Earl's and they did the same thing

965
00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:34,410
again and then the third the third

966
00:44:38,810 --> 00:44:36,540
option was to go to go to Mars by way of

967
00:44:44,450 --> 00:44:38,820
the moon and so the way that I usually

968
00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:44,460
discuss that is that in 1961 No

969
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:49,020
in 1959 the the army came out with a

970
00:44:53,090 --> 00:44:50,910
thing called project horizon which was

971
00:44:55,070 --> 00:44:53,100
to basically do that one yeah

972
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:55,080
pressurized Quonset huts buried in

973
00:44:59,750 --> 00:44:57,690
regolith on the moon not long after the

974
00:45:01,880 --> 00:44:59,760
Air Force came along with loon X which

975
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:01,890
was to have this rocket that would land

976
00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:04,770
and become a base and they the army

977
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:06,120
believed that they could get a hundred

978
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:08,130
and seventy eight soldiers on the moon

979
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:12,240
by 1961 kids can I cut in and ask you so

980
00:45:16,970 --> 00:45:14,850
you say go to Mars by way of the moon

981
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:16,980
does that mean like doing research first

982
00:45:21,770 --> 00:45:18,570
on the moon and then shooting people

983
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:21,780
from the moon to Mars or is it more than

984
00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:24,240
a logistics thing it's a logistics thing

985
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:25,950
yeah because at that time you know they

986
00:45:30,340 --> 00:45:27,690
didn't necessarily have the capability

987
00:45:34,670 --> 00:45:30,350
to get all the way you know

988
00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:34,680
yeah I just want to catch up the

989
00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:36,780
audience if if people are kind of like

990
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:38,280
curious and I'm kind of curious I need

991
00:45:42,110 --> 00:45:40,170
to be reminded sometimes but like you're

992
00:45:44,420 --> 00:45:42,120
kind of breaking it down so our

993
00:45:46,250 --> 00:45:44,430
government or the the world government a

994
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:46,260
lot of governments realized in the 50s

995
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:48,930
right that that [\h__\h] was going bad in

996
00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:50,490
our environment so they came up with

997
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:52,260
these contingency plans and there's

998
00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:54,930
three options and and and now you're

999
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:56,910
kind of going and you found all of this

1000
00:46:01,370 --> 00:45:58,890
proof in this evidence of government

1001
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:01,380
like documents documenting all of these

1002
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:03,570
these projects and there's proof of this

1003
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:08,370
dive yeah and it gets worse so I so -

1004
00:46:12,620 --> 00:46:10,170
two interesting things happen to me and

1005
00:46:15,350 --> 00:46:12,630
in the process of the research one is

1006
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,360
that I was on Ground Zero and this guy

1007
00:46:18,740 --> 00:46:17,040
called in and I'm talking about all this

1008
00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:18,750
stuff and this guy calls in about five

1009
00:46:22,820 --> 00:46:21,060
minutes before the show ends and he

1010
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:22,830
calls him he said he's calling in from

1011
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:24,570
the Pacific Northwest that's all he

1012
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:27,750
would say his name was Bob and he said

1013
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:30,090
that he worked worked for a large

1014
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:32,910
defense contractor right in the Pacific

1015
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,890
Northwest right and he said that he

1016
00:46:37,940 --> 00:46:36,480
worked on a constellation of satellites

1017
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:37,950
because one of the things I talk about

1018
00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:41,010
is Star Wars and I'll get to why that's

1019
00:46:45,350 --> 00:46:42,600
important in a minute the reels that he

1020
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:45,360
said the real Star Wars and he said that

1021
00:46:49,820 --> 00:46:47,670
that not only was Star Wars real but he

1022
00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:49,830
explained how it worked and then he said

1023
00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:51,630
it was the it was the shoot at stuff

1024
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:55,020
coming toward us not not for to shoot

1025
00:47:01,610 --> 00:46:56,970
stuff down but to shoot stuff up so to

1026
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:01,620
speak and then he hung up the second the

1027
00:47:07,330 --> 00:47:04,440
the second guy he had an uncle that

1028
00:47:12,290 --> 00:47:07,340
worked at a huge he was an accountant

1029
00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:12,300
had a huge fabrication company and he

1030
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:14,520
said that the the guy was he was like a

1031
00:47:18,590 --> 00:47:16,650
comptroller and he was doing odd news

1032
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:18,600
oddity in the books you have to do

1033
00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:20,730
usually and he found these like crazy

1034
00:47:27,890 --> 00:47:24,180
purchases from the military for just

1035
00:47:29,930 --> 00:47:27,900
insane amounts of sheet metal any and so

1036
00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:29,940
you went to his boss and and this the

1037
00:47:34,370 --> 00:47:32,040
billing was kind of screwy and he went

1038
00:47:35,780 --> 00:47:34,380
to the boss the boss like drop it and he

1039
00:47:38,270 --> 00:47:35,790
wouldn't drop it he kept pushing pushing

1040
00:47:40,610 --> 00:47:38,280
pushing and he figured out eventually

1041
00:47:43,730 --> 00:47:40,620
that the the sheet metal was for some

1042
00:47:46,940 --> 00:47:43,740
weird project and then they fired him

1043
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:46,950
Oh interesting was it like what doesn't

1044
00:47:51,470 --> 00:47:49,650
matter what kind of metal it was or just

1045
00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:51,480
I don't I don't know what kind of metal

1046
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:51,960
okay

1047
00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:54,210
yeah I was just curious but basically

1048
00:47:59,800 --> 00:47:56,040
what he discovered is it was to build

1049
00:48:02,210 --> 00:47:59,810
those Quonset huts on the mouth Wow yeah

1050
00:48:04,850 --> 00:48:02,220
right and then the other thing that I

1051
00:48:07,070 --> 00:48:04,860
talked about is that there's a specific

1052
00:48:09,650 --> 00:48:07,080
place so you know you can you can watch

1053
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,660
all kinds of videos and whatever and see

1054
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:11,040
all kinds of well these are crystal

1055
00:48:17,180 --> 00:48:14,010
spires and here's pyramids and there's a

1056
00:48:20,510 --> 00:48:17,190
face and other stuff yeah yeah maybe

1057
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:20,520
maybe not I've never seen one that's so

1058
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:22,050
compelling that you look at it you're

1059
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:26,460
like yes yes except for one so I found I

1060
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,530
searched all over the place and I found

1061
00:48:34,550 --> 00:48:30,480
this building and it's basically built

1062
00:48:37,310 --> 00:48:34,560
into the side of a canyon and it's it's

1063
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:37,320
a square it's a square building on the

1064
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:40,200
moon has it on Mars and it has a dome

1065
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:43,680
yeah and has a dome and a dome is

1066
00:48:48,109 --> 00:48:46,050
actually reflecting the sunlight so you

1067
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:48,119
can clearly see it's a dump so the trick

1068
00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:50,010
I the trick I usually play on people as

1069
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:52,440
I say okay where is this the most common

1070
00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:01,040
answer I get is that it's in Malibu so

1071
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:03,630
you know and you can get into gary

1072
00:49:08,599 --> 00:49:05,850
mckinnon why Gary McKenna and make sense

1073
00:49:10,310 --> 00:49:08,609
and a lot of other things but but the

1074
00:49:13,490 --> 00:49:10,320
real when you get into the actual

1075
00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:13,500
mechanics of space program right I like

1076
00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:17,070
to go back to the Germans right right I

1077
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:18,990
think that's kind of synonymous I think

1078
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:20,609
with a lot of the stories like it

1079
00:49:26,750 --> 00:49:22,530
started with the Germans right like kind

1080
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:26,760
of right so so the guy okay so the first

1081
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:27,810
the first thing that's very interesting

1082
00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:29,730
is that one of the things that has

1083
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:31,830
commonly talked about is the bell there

1084
00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:35,040
glocca right right it was it was the

1085
00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:37,140
hint you know tethered to the hinge and

1086
00:49:42,530 --> 00:49:41,070
and and that's that's all true but

1087
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,540
what's even more interesting is that a

1088
00:49:46,970 --> 00:49:44,640
buddy of mine named Walter Bosley I

1089
00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:46,980
actually found easily into the Sonora

1090
00:49:51,470 --> 00:49:48,780
Aero Club and arrows and all that

1091
00:49:53,570 --> 00:49:51,480
mysterious airships of 1897 and all that

1092
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:53,580
stuff yeah and there's there's this guy

1093
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:55,410
named el shaddoll Shaw had made these

1094
00:50:02,390 --> 00:49:57,770
crazy Mon

1095
00:50:04,250 --> 00:50:02,400
montages of you know and collages of all

1096
00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:04,260
the airships and they were like

1097
00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:06,420
schematics but presented in an artistic

1098
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:10,200
way and on one of them Walter actually

1099
00:50:14,690 --> 00:50:11,970
found the Bell and it has the

1100
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,700
counter-rotating arrows and all its the

1101
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:16,800
Bell this is from the late the late

1102
00:50:24,020 --> 00:50:19,770
1800s so if you so if you fast forward

1103
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:24,030
to the Germans right oh so this is the

1104
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,640
nor arrow club they they competed with

1105
00:50:31,609 --> 00:50:29,040
this group called nimza nimza was was a

1106
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,619
group from europe and it's commonly

1107
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:33,359
believed they're from germany well it

1108
00:50:36,859 --> 00:50:34,559
turns out they're actually from Prussia

1109
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:36,869
and this is important about to be very

1110
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:39,210
important so the guy that actually ran

1111
00:50:43,099 --> 00:50:41,490
the secret secret weapons program for

1112
00:50:45,470 --> 00:50:43,109
the Germans was a guy named Hans Kammler

1113
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:45,480
I'm sure you've heard of Hans camel yeah

1114
00:50:50,329 --> 00:50:47,220
but there are some things that you need

1115
00:50:52,099 --> 00:50:50,339
to know about Hans Kammler number one he

1116
00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:52,109
was an engineer he was actually he had a

1117
00:50:59,329 --> 00:50:55,260
PhD in civil engineering and he actually

1118
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:59,339
designed the he designed the

1119
00:51:05,690 --> 00:51:01,680
concentration camp system No

1120
00:51:08,359 --> 00:51:05,700
yeah he's a bad guy he's a very bad guy

1121
00:51:09,770 --> 00:51:08,369
he was also he was also in charge of

1122
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:09,780
Penta Munda where they were doing the

1123
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:11,670
rocket experiments and firing the V ones

1124
00:51:15,470 --> 00:51:12,450
of the v2 s

1125
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:15,480
okay yeah he actually took away that's

1126
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:17,910
the weapons program from Albert Speer

1127
00:51:25,940 --> 00:51:23,640
and well and from Goering so Goering had

1128
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:25,950
had it taken away from by spear and then

1129
00:51:30,829 --> 00:51:29,280
Kammler took it away from spear so he's

1130
00:51:34,270 --> 00:51:30,839
a very well-connected dude he was

1131
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:34,280
actually a sign the weapons program by

1132
00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:42,410
Himmler Himmler Himmler and it was a

1133
00:51:47,890 --> 00:51:45,030
handwritten note basically assigning him

1134
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:47,900
to take over the weapons for a while so

1135
00:51:54,020 --> 00:51:50,970
when you when you look at this right

1136
00:51:56,329 --> 00:51:54,030
you've got this guy Kammler extremely

1137
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,339
well educated he's an engineer I'll be

1138
00:52:02,329 --> 00:51:59,040
at a civil engineer and he's running

1139
00:52:04,250 --> 00:52:02,339
this crazy program right and the the

1140
00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:04,260
story of the Bell actually comes from a

1141
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:06,540
guy named Jacob sporrenberg and

1142
00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:09,440
sporrenberg was in the SS

1143
00:52:13,789 --> 00:52:12,329
and he was so the SS had different

1144
00:52:17,269 --> 00:52:13,799
groups right so there was kind of the

1145
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:17,279
military part of the the SS right there

1146
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:19,170
was the police part of the SS which had

1147
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:21,690
policemen and the Gestapo race and then

1148
00:52:26,359 --> 00:52:24,089
you know you had the on an RV which is a

1149
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:26,369
whole topic in and of itself and then

1150
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:28,730
you know you had the army part well so

1151
00:52:33,799 --> 00:52:32,400
so and then they had the the art people

1152
00:52:36,769 --> 00:52:33,809
right they went around and stole a bunch

1153
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:36,779
of art right yeah that's that's part of

1154
00:52:42,859 --> 00:52:40,710
the on intervene okay yeah so and they

1155
00:52:44,809 --> 00:52:42,869
didn't steal art they that was left to

1156
00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:44,819
other people well they did steal some

1157
00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:47,160
art but the on inner be is actually they

1158
00:52:51,349 --> 00:52:49,470
did all the crazy research they were the

1159
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:51,359
ones with the hex the Hexen group and

1160
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:54,089
the the witch group yeah okay actually

1161
00:52:59,890 --> 00:52:56,910
had witches yes so like anyway yeah yes

1162
00:53:02,470 --> 00:52:59,900
hurry up I don't want to get you okay so

1163
00:53:05,930 --> 00:53:02,480
sporrenberg was in the police privet and

1164
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:05,940
he had he had heard rumors about this

1165
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:09,119
place called Dury see the giant which is

1166
00:53:13,519 --> 00:53:11,130
this huge complex people think it's one

1167
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:13,529
thing it was actually a monstrous

1168
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:16,170
complex of various things and that they

1169
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:18,210
were doing this crazy research so he

1170
00:53:21,890 --> 00:53:19,890
gets picked up by the polls and polls

1171
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:21,900
are like dude you're gonna die right

1172
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:23,730
we're going to hang you because you're a

1173
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:26,640
bastard and you were in the SS yeah he's

1174
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:28,920
like no yeah he's like no no no don't

1175
00:53:35,210 --> 00:53:30,960
kill me I got this crazy story so he

1176
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:35,220
tells the crazy story right and then

1177
00:53:40,579 --> 00:53:37,440
then they execute him anyway

1178
00:53:42,589 --> 00:53:40,589
so years later this guy with tau ski

1179
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:42,599
hears from a friend of his in Polish

1180
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:44,130
intelligence that they have a crazy

1181
00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:46,710
story in their archives and he gives it

1182
00:53:51,529 --> 00:53:48,569
to what outski and when tau ski who was

1183
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:51,539
into the vendor of often the the super

1184
00:53:58,279 --> 00:53:54,210
weapons yeah right then the 260 to the

1185
00:54:00,079 --> 00:53:58,289
163 all these crazy crazy aircraft and

1186
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:00,089
missile you know guided missiles and all

1187
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:02,010
this crazy stuff they were going yeah

1188
00:54:05,299 --> 00:54:03,930
and so it gives to a tasket ow ski

1189
00:54:07,849 --> 00:54:05,309
writes about it I think it's picked up

1190
00:54:09,529 --> 00:54:07,859
by Nick Nick cook in the hunt for zero

1191
00:54:11,059 --> 00:54:09,539
point and then it kind of pull it for H

1192
00:54:13,099 --> 00:54:11,069
you got Joseph Farrow has written some

1193
00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:13,109
amazing books on it and everybody's

1194
00:54:16,819 --> 00:54:14,670
talking about it now right

1195
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:16,829
but the day it comes from this one guy

1196
00:54:20,269 --> 00:54:17,970
jakob sporrenberg

1197
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:20,279
well what's foreign Berg said is that

1198
00:54:24,810 --> 00:54:22,090
they were running these crazy tests and

1199
00:54:26,550 --> 00:54:24,820
this weird engine thing that they had

1200
00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:26,560
tethered to the thing they called the

1201
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:30,310
henge and it was anti-gravity so there's

1202
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:32,770
a very funny thing oh and and it would

1203
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:35,410
kill plants and technicians who got too

1204
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:39,010
close of it died etcetera etcetera yeah

1205
00:54:42,810 --> 00:54:41,470
so so can I ask you really quick I don't

1206
00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:42,820
mean to interrupt but sure so you know

1207
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:44,200
it's um you mentioned that there was uh

1208
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:46,690
like schematics in the 1800s about this

1209
00:54:51,180 --> 00:54:48,850
de Glock right and then yeah now we're

1210
00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:51,190
hearing about in the in in in fort maybe

1211
00:54:56,910 --> 00:54:55,150
late 30s mid 30s talking about this this

1212
00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:56,920
person saying ya know it was a real

1213
00:55:00,900 --> 00:54:57,510
thing

1214
00:55:02,370 --> 00:55:00,910
forties forties oh yeah I forgot to

1215
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:02,380
mention that part so one of the

1216
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:04,090
interesting things about Kammler aside

1217
00:55:07,830 --> 00:55:06,010
from his education and his bionics which

1218
00:55:10,740 --> 00:55:07,840
are etc is the camel is actually

1219
00:55:12,330 --> 00:55:10,750
oppression and one of the things want to

1220
00:55:14,550 --> 00:55:12,340
be very interesting things of a camera

1221
00:55:17,220 --> 00:55:14,560
is that he was reported on multiple

1222
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:17,230
times within the SS that during his

1223
00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:20,080
reviews because it's a job right you may

1224
00:55:25,580 --> 00:55:21,670
be building gas chambers but apparently

1225
00:55:32,490 --> 00:55:25,590
you get job reviews I think it's crazy

1226
00:55:34,170 --> 00:55:32,500
yeah disgusting thing that was said

1227
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:34,180
about him is that although he was a good

1228
00:55:40,830 --> 00:55:37,510
SS officer right and he did everything

1229
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,840
that he spoke to do to the letter it

1230
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:42,640
always seemed like he was beholden to

1231
00:55:50,460 --> 00:55:47,680
someone else his true is true he wasn't

1232
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:50,470
a fanatic he was a very calculated guy

1233
00:55:55,860 --> 00:55:53,770
and his fanaticism was not to Nazism it

1234
00:55:58,260 --> 00:55:55,870
was actually just something else and

1235
00:56:01,020 --> 00:55:58,270
it's my belief that his his fanaticism

1236
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:01,030
was actually to whatever nimza became

1237
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:03,910
the morning I may be the real society

1238
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:06,490
right well I think it was nimza and I

1239
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:08,650
think nimza actually infiltrated the

1240
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:11,050
rural society the SS and all these other

1241
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:12,730
group the theosophy groups and

1242
00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:13,330
everything else

1243
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:16,990
yeah so so at the end of the war a very

1244
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:20,490
interesting thing happened so number one

1245
00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:23,680
all that so okay so the Soviets are

1246
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:25,600
trying to get there right and they they

1247
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:28,510
want the Soviets under Korolev rounded

1248
00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:31,890
up all the technicians and the Americans

1249
00:56:37,220 --> 00:56:34,020
rounded up all the signs

1250
00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:37,230
so they went to try to get there to get

1251
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:39,030
the scientists of this crazy project

1252
00:56:45,910 --> 00:56:40,170
because they heard about it from other

1253
00:56:54,740 --> 00:56:52,040
so yeah so they they had disappeared and

1254
00:56:57,020 --> 00:56:54,750
then Kammler himself has reported it

1255
00:57:01,609 --> 00:56:57,030
that he it's reported that Kammler died

1256
00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:01,619
something like five times huh but nobody

1257
00:57:06,109 --> 00:57:03,480
ever yeah nobody ever found the body he

1258
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:06,119
got he got suicided was the was it the

1259
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:10,380
Clinton sir died five times it's crazy

1260
00:57:14,330 --> 00:57:12,420
he died five times he died on the side

1261
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:14,340
of the road after being strafed by an

1262
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:16,530
aircraft he died in a firefight

1263
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:18,210
he blew his brains out and there's a

1264
00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:20,010
whole bunch of different options but how

1265
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:23,180
this dude died but nobody ever found him

1266
00:57:28,970 --> 00:57:27,330
saying there is a book that claims that

1267
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:28,980
he eventually came to the United States

1268
00:57:32,810 --> 00:57:30,930
I don't know about that but I do know

1269
00:57:35,630 --> 00:57:32,820
about this everything that they were

1270
00:57:38,060 --> 00:57:35,640
working on which is documented is gone

1271
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:38,070
it just vanished into thin air no what

1272
00:57:42,170 --> 00:57:40,410
is that what is very interesting the

1273
00:57:45,380 --> 00:57:42,180
number of the aircraft escapes me right

1274
00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:45,390
now but it's a yonkers they originally

1275
00:57:49,250 --> 00:57:47,670
designed as the America bomber it was

1276
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:49,260
designed to fly from Germany to America

1277
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:51,930
to drop a nuclear bomb on New York no

1278
00:57:58,130 --> 00:57:53,850
Dan they never yeah they never got that

1279
00:58:01,190 --> 00:57:58,140
far luckily yeah yeah luckily but it's

1280
00:58:05,540 --> 00:58:01,200
it's ginormous it's is huge like like a

1281
00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:05,550
10 gen transport and at the end of the

1282
00:58:10,340 --> 00:58:08,369
war Kammler had control of the only four

1283
00:58:12,830 --> 00:58:10,350
of them exit that existed on the face of

1284
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:12,840
the earth and like three of them

1285
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:14,970
vanished I think three out of four

1286
00:58:19,780 --> 00:58:17,520
vanished Wow now what's interesting

1287
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:19,790
what's interesting about that thing is

1288
00:58:27,380 --> 00:58:23,369
it the range so if you draw a straight

1289
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:27,390
line from Darice ii you could probably

1290
00:58:33,980 --> 00:58:30,480
get to somewhere in Africa on one tank

1291
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:33,990
of gas hmm okay and then from Africa you

1292
00:58:40,849 --> 00:58:39,210
could easily fly to the pole Brea oh

1293
00:58:44,359 --> 00:58:40,859
there's a there's a hitch but there's a

1294
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:44,369
hitch so this aircraft there's a smaller

1295
00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:47,280
one that has like three like six engines

1296
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:50,609
and they actually tested a mid-air

1297
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:53,640
refueling of the eight engine by the six

1298
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:56,130
engine with a huge fuel bladder in the

1299
00:58:59,690 --> 00:58:56,609
back

1300
00:59:01,490 --> 00:58:59,700
since the transport it had this huge

1301
00:59:03,020 --> 00:59:01,500
fuel bladder they actually tested midair

1302
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:03,030
refueling that thing over the North

1303
00:59:08,180 --> 00:59:06,210
Atlantic so what I would suggest to you

1304
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:08,190
is that they midair refueled that thing

1305
00:59:12,290 --> 00:59:10,050
and it kept right on going and I think

1306
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:12,300
the camera packed up all the technical

1307
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:14,970
part of all the scientists shot a bunch

1308
00:59:21,410 --> 00:59:17,520
of the technicians in slave labor and I

1309
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:21,420
took off and maybe went to base 211 and

1310
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:25,730
I talked to dr. Richard Alan Miller and

1311
00:59:31,339 --> 00:59:29,310
he said he's been to 211 and when you go

1312
00:59:32,990 --> 00:59:31,349
inside 211 that it's obvious that there

1313
00:59:35,180 --> 00:59:33,000
was some sort of massive firefight in

1314
00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:35,190
there it's all blown blown to hell and

1315
00:59:40,580 --> 00:59:36,990
there's bullet holes everywhere and

1316
00:59:42,349 --> 00:59:40,590
whatever and 211 is on-site is the South

1317
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:42,359
Pole right it's in error yeah it's an

1318
00:59:47,780 --> 00:59:44,400
yeah it's a new Schwaben line that's

1319
00:59:49,790 --> 00:59:47,790
what they called it like that name but

1320
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,800
but you know what what comes away from

1321
00:59:55,099 --> 00:59:51,839
that is that you know that that the

1322
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:55,109
Allies and Soviets at the time probably

1323
00:59:59,930 --> 00:59:57,690
have some had some documentation on what

1324
01:00:01,550 --> 00:59:59,940
they were doing and one of the reasons I

1325
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:01,560
believe this is it because if you look

1326
01:00:07,099 --> 01:00:03,839
at the Kecksburg incident the Kecksburg

1327
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:07,109
UFO is a dead ringer for the for the

1328
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:09,690
Bell and if you look at the the

1329
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:11,730
Kecksburg UFO they said had these

1330
01:00:15,740 --> 01:00:14,010
hieroglyphics on it well the the Germans

1331
01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:15,750
had a preoccupation with Norse and

1332
01:00:20,180 --> 01:00:18,420
Germanic mythology it's not beyond the

1333
01:00:22,970 --> 01:00:20,190
pale that they actually carved runes

1334
01:00:25,310 --> 01:00:22,980
into it because the SS who was working

1335
01:00:27,050 --> 01:00:25,320
on this project there were total pagans

1336
01:00:29,710 --> 01:00:27,060
and they had they had this whole

1337
01:00:33,290 --> 01:00:29,720
obsession with Germanic and Norse

1338
01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:33,300
mythology so they probably would have

1339
01:00:38,570 --> 01:00:36,180
carved runes into the side of it so it

1340
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:38,580
might have been either a German UFO

1341
01:00:44,750 --> 01:00:42,810
write a hang about or it could have been

1342
01:00:48,290 --> 01:00:44,760
an American version now if you

1343
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:48,300
fast-forward to the 60s okay one of the

1344
01:00:59,329 --> 01:00:50,130
very interesting things about this whole

1345
01:01:00,529 --> 01:00:59,339
thing is it is I just I just drove a

1346
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:00,539
long way

1347
01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:03,970
no Otto bender Otto bender wrote an

1348
01:01:09,749 --> 01:01:05,980
article and saga which was a men's

1349
01:01:11,180 --> 01:01:09,759
magazine about UFOs and one of the

1350
01:01:14,819 --> 01:01:11,190
things that he wrote about was the

1351
01:01:17,700 --> 01:01:14,829
iconography on the UFOs the UFOs have

1352
01:01:19,620 --> 01:01:17,710
symbols on them right yeah and one of

1353
01:01:21,299 --> 01:01:19,630
the yeah and one of the variant aside

1354
01:01:23,069 --> 01:01:21,309
from the other ones which I chart out in

1355
01:01:25,859 --> 01:01:23,079
the book I wrote one of the other

1356
01:01:27,329 --> 01:01:25,869
interesting things about it is that he

1357
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:27,339
said that there were a large number of

1358
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:29,440
them the one they were seen they would

1359
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:31,210
say like us and when a four digit code

1360
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:33,369
or UN and a four digit code SV

1361
01:01:39,289 --> 01:01:36,730
four-digit code yeah no alien no alien

1362
01:01:42,989 --> 01:01:39,299
in their right mind is gonna write in in

1363
01:01:45,930 --> 01:01:42,999
used in a Roman alphabet us four numbers

1364
01:01:48,180 --> 01:01:45,940
right this also this also coincides with

1365
01:01:49,890 --> 01:01:48,190
what was our saw it has four that he

1366
01:01:52,019 --> 01:01:49,900
said when he went into the sports model

1367
01:01:54,569 --> 01:01:52,029
that there was like letters on the side

1368
01:01:57,900 --> 01:01:54,579
of it right right he said it was it

1369
01:02:00,660 --> 01:01:57,910
looked like almost say us us a kind of

1370
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:00,670
sticker or some kind of insignia was

1371
01:02:05,489 --> 01:02:02,950
slapped on it right yeah because as

1372
01:02:09,329 --> 01:02:05,499
humans as humans what do we do with

1373
01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:09,339
brand we put labels we label stuff now

1374
01:02:13,799 --> 01:02:11,470
here's the kicker right when we're

1375
01:02:16,410 --> 01:02:13,809
talking about UFOs and the secret space

1376
01:02:18,210 --> 01:02:16,420
program and then there's something

1377
01:02:20,190 --> 01:02:18,220
really blow your mind but when we're

1378
01:02:21,390 --> 01:02:20,200
talking about the secret space program

1379
01:02:24,660 --> 01:02:21,400
and we're talking about the very

1380
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:24,670
beginning of it one of the most famous

1381
01:02:32,220 --> 01:02:28,089
UFO experiences ever is Betty and Barney

1382
01:02:34,890 --> 01:02:32,230
Hill right right so Betty this one gets

1383
01:02:37,499 --> 01:02:34,900
me to a bit of trouble but okay so the

1384
01:02:38,849 --> 01:02:37,509
core so the car dies in and Betty and

1385
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:38,859
Barney Hill you know he was

1386
01:02:43,319 --> 01:02:41,529
african-american she was white they you

1387
01:02:46,249 --> 01:02:43,329
know in a place where that was not

1388
01:02:50,370 --> 01:02:46,259
popular there was a lot of racial issues

1389
01:02:52,620 --> 01:02:50,380
so and it's during the 50s and so

1390
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:52,630
unfortunately Barney yeah unfortunately

1391
01:03:00,450 --> 01:02:55,930
so Barney who was a was an Army veteran

1392
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:00,460
cured a colt 45 in the car the UFOs the

1393
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:03,130
car shuts off the UFO comes down and so

1394
01:03:06,059 --> 01:03:04,720
what does Barney do he's gonna protect

1395
01:03:08,339 --> 01:03:06,069
his wife so he gets out of the car

1396
01:03:12,460 --> 01:03:08,349
starts shooting at the UFO man nothing

1397
01:03:15,099 --> 01:03:12,470
happens right what we would all do

1398
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:15,109
exactly so right so the ramp comes down

1399
01:03:23,290 --> 01:03:18,010
and guess who comes out of that ramp

1400
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:23,300
well a redheaded Irishman now what you

1401
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:26,090
would expect mmm with a with a German

1402
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:27,440
Shepherd now there's a reason this is

1403
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:31,250
significant so the redheaded Irishman

1404
01:03:35,470 --> 01:03:33,290
takes him on a tour of the UFO now if

1405
01:03:37,330 --> 01:03:35,480
you listen to the original or if you

1406
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:37,340
read and read the transcript and listen

1407
01:03:42,070 --> 01:03:40,310
to the original hypnotic regression he

1408
01:03:44,260 --> 01:03:42,080
talks about this redheaded Irishman

1409
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:44,270
leading them through the UFO and I'm

1410
01:03:48,270 --> 01:03:45,890
seeing the occupants in the way that he

1411
01:03:50,650 --> 01:03:48,280
described the occupants ascent is is

1412
01:03:52,900 --> 01:03:50,660
basically Nazis they were in black

1413
01:03:56,140 --> 01:03:52,910
jumpsuit silver piping were peaked caps

1414
01:03:59,109 --> 01:03:56,150
they look like panzer you know panzer

1415
01:04:01,359 --> 01:03:59,119
crews yeah kind of how he described them

1416
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:01,369
now the reason the redheaded Irishman is

1417
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:03,410
significant is that it's a little-known

1418
01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:05,330
fact the during World War two that the

1419
01:04:10,660 --> 01:04:08,150
IRA the Irish Republican Army who fought

1420
01:04:12,580 --> 01:04:10,670
the English for years even now they kind

1421
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:12,590
of fight politically but through

1422
01:04:18,550 --> 01:04:14,960
champagne but back then name it was an

1423
01:04:21,970 --> 01:04:18,560
armed conflict yes they they actually

1424
01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:21,980
started and the Nazis trained a bunch of

1425
01:04:24,609 --> 01:04:23,780
them and supplied them to go attack the

1426
01:04:26,740 --> 01:04:24,619
British huh

1427
01:04:28,990 --> 01:04:26,750
and when what ended up happening is that

1428
01:04:30,579 --> 01:04:29,000
there was an entire unit of soldiers

1429
01:04:35,339 --> 01:04:30,589
from Northern Ireland that actually

1430
01:04:38,349 --> 01:04:35,349
fought in the in the SS in the army Wow

1431
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:38,359
so it's not it's not insane that a

1432
01:04:44,740 --> 01:04:40,010
redheaded Irish man is on board that

1433
01:04:46,540 --> 01:04:44,750
hurt aircraft or whatever Wow

1434
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:46,550
so that just kind of blows the lid off

1435
01:04:53,109 --> 01:04:49,280
of you know one of the most famous UFO

1436
01:04:53,980 --> 01:04:53,119
stories of all time I'll give you

1437
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:53,990
something even better

1438
01:04:59,230 --> 01:04:55,730
so have you ever heard of the Marjorie

1439
01:05:02,680 --> 01:04:59,240
fish star map yes yeah the map that he

1440
01:05:04,930 --> 01:05:02,690
drew right right so if you look at that

1441
01:05:06,579 --> 01:05:04,940
map the idea is is that in the center is

1442
01:05:09,130 --> 01:05:06,589
the earth and there's all these like

1443
01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:09,140
conduits that go out from it Zeta

1444
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:11,660
Reticuli Barnard star Proxima Centauri

1445
01:05:18,099 --> 01:05:15,680
whatever right yeah so far be it for me

1446
01:05:20,829 --> 01:05:18,109
to question people's motives but when I

1447
01:05:23,620 --> 01:05:20,839
was a when I was a a younger person

1448
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:23,630
today when I was in college I studied

1449
01:05:35,870 --> 01:05:25,310
anthropology

1450
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:35,880
my professor was a little dry and boring

1451
01:05:41,090 --> 01:05:38,250
but he taught us one thing that I'll

1452
01:05:43,250 --> 01:05:41,100
remember until the day I die when you

1453
01:05:45,490 --> 01:05:43,260
live somewhere right and you give

1454
01:05:48,109 --> 01:05:45,500
somebody instructions or you make maps

1455
01:05:50,450 --> 01:05:48,119
they're generally the way you orientate

1456
01:05:53,060 --> 01:05:50,460
your maps or or in teacher directions is

1457
01:05:56,090 --> 01:05:53,070
relative to a large landmass or

1458
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:56,100
something culturally significant in my

1459
01:05:59,780 --> 01:05:57,690
case I live near a mountain called Mount

1460
01:06:02,030 --> 01:05:59,790
diabla so if I'm gonna give you

1461
01:06:04,099 --> 01:06:02,040
directions right I'm gonna say I keep

1462
01:06:05,330 --> 01:06:04,109
the mountain on the left side or keep

1463
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:05,340
them out and on the right side if you're

1464
01:06:08,450 --> 01:06:05,970
going north

1465
01:06:10,099 --> 01:06:08,460
right or you know you know your turn

1466
01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:10,109
right at the river you know stuff like

1467
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:14,040
that right yeah generally when you make

1468
01:06:18,650 --> 01:06:16,650
a map you put yourself in the middle so

1469
01:06:20,690 --> 01:06:18,660
if the earth is in the middle and it's

1470
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:20,700
all in English why would it a be in

1471
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:22,290
English should be why would the earth be

1472
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:24,570
in the center if I'm if I'm an alien

1473
01:06:29,870 --> 01:06:26,490
from Zeta Reticuli I'm gonna potato

1474
01:06:34,430 --> 01:06:29,880
Reticuli in the Sun yeah yeah it makes

1475
01:06:36,170 --> 01:06:34,440
it yeah yeah yeah so that's the kind of

1476
01:06:39,830 --> 01:06:36,180
that's the kind of proof of the genesis

1477
01:06:42,050 --> 01:06:39,840
of the secret space program from there

1478
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:42,060
you know it's you see a lot of things

1479
01:06:46,599 --> 01:06:44,130
about these weird projects that the

1480
01:06:48,770 --> 01:06:46,609
military on with these exotic aircraft

1481
01:06:50,810 --> 01:06:48,780
you know you can talk about different

1482
01:06:52,820 --> 01:06:50,820
kinds of engines for example there's a

1483
01:06:55,310 --> 01:06:52,830
thing called an aero spike engine this

1484
01:06:58,550 --> 01:06:55,320
thing only really works up above 60,000

1485
01:07:01,220 --> 01:06:58,560
feet right yeah you need to use a noble

1486
01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:01,230
turbine turbine engine to get it up to

1487
01:07:05,510 --> 01:07:03,359
50 around 50 thousand and you engage

1488
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:05,520
this thing it kind of putts along the

1489
01:07:09,740 --> 01:07:07,410
once you get up to sixty it goes it just

1490
01:07:13,190 --> 01:07:09,750
goes and suppose the dinner aerospike

1491
01:07:16,790 --> 01:07:13,200
you can do like Mach 6 Maki damn in a

1492
01:07:19,130 --> 01:07:16,800
human inside the the craft it can can

1493
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:19,140
stand us yeah I guess good family I

1494
01:07:23,870 --> 01:07:20,910
guess I guess if the acceleration is low

1495
01:07:25,970 --> 01:07:23,880
enough you can you know go that fast the

1496
01:07:27,830 --> 01:07:25,980
acceleration is yeah you're building up

1497
01:07:29,660 --> 01:07:27,840
yeah Wow

1498
01:07:31,070 --> 01:07:29,670
but but the other thing about it the

1499
01:07:33,260 --> 01:07:31,080
other thing about it right is that you

1500
01:07:35,030 --> 01:07:33,270
know you've got the laws are talking

1501
01:07:38,690 --> 01:07:35,040
about the Sportster model which is

1502
01:07:39,050 --> 01:07:38,700
basically you know an offshoot of the

1503
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:39,060
orig

1504
01:07:43,730 --> 01:07:42,090
German engineering program so you know

1505
01:07:46,340 --> 01:07:43,740
there's all these different options once

1506
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:46,350
you get it get into more modern era yeah

1507
01:07:52,010 --> 01:07:50,130
so okay can I can I kind of regroup is

1508
01:07:54,860 --> 01:07:52,020
it so we're kind of you you just

1509
01:07:56,990 --> 01:07:54,870
explained like the genesis as you said

1510
01:07:58,580 --> 01:07:57,000
just a second ago of the space secret

1511
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:58,590
space program and now we're kind of like

1512
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:00,960
okay here's all this backstory and now

1513
01:08:05,060 --> 01:08:03,210
we're I don't know what year are we at

1514
01:08:08,180 --> 01:08:05,070
are we it like in the in the 90s and

1515
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:08,190
like oh you're Bob let's okay cool so

1516
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:10,890
what 80s if my bubbles are came out in

1517
01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:15,690
89 so then Mike I don't know if you know

1518
01:08:19,579 --> 01:08:17,190
this through your research but maybe

1519
01:08:21,020 --> 01:08:19,589
it's just I'd be curious what your

1520
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:21,030
opinion is or maybe you know a little

1521
01:08:25,250 --> 01:08:23,310
bit more but do you think that Bob Lazar

1522
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:25,260
you know not knowing you know this that

1523
01:08:28,670 --> 01:08:26,970
our government spending all this cash

1524
01:08:30,829 --> 01:08:28,680
trying to learn what this propulsion

1525
01:08:34,010 --> 01:08:30,839
technology is do you think it could have

1526
01:08:36,740 --> 01:08:34,020
been a human-made craft or do you think

1527
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:36,750
it was definitely extraterrestrial you

1528
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:39,930
know the jury's still out so I've met

1529
01:08:43,670 --> 01:08:40,530
Lazar

1530
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:43,680
he's a very nice very nice guy I love

1531
01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:47,730
Bobby's the great guy yeah yeah he's

1532
01:08:54,559 --> 01:08:51,270
very quiet very shy but until he's

1533
01:08:58,270 --> 01:08:54,569
blowing stuff up but this is the way

1534
01:09:01,610 --> 01:08:58,280
that I would I would posit it to you I

1535
01:09:05,270 --> 01:09:01,620
think Bob Lazar told you exactly what he

1536
01:09:07,550 --> 01:09:05,280
understood he told you exactly what he

1537
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:07,560
knows that doesn't mean that what they

1538
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:10,050
taught was true and was already been

1539
01:09:16,309 --> 01:09:13,170
says this it you know it being an alien

1540
01:09:18,290 --> 01:09:16,319
craft and all that crap that may or may

1541
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:18,300
not be true he has no way of knowing

1542
01:09:24,829 --> 01:09:23,130
right yeah right so it could be a back

1543
01:09:27,740 --> 01:09:24,839
engineered alien craft it could be a

1544
01:09:30,380 --> 01:09:27,750
back engineer ultra sophisticated German

1545
01:09:32,270 --> 01:09:30,390
craft right yeah I could it could just

1546
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:32,280
be I mean one of the examples that that

1547
01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:33,930
Bob Lazar is given is like if you throw

1548
01:09:38,150 --> 01:09:36,000
a motorcycle in a couple hundred years

1549
01:09:40,610 --> 01:09:38,160
ago or you're like you know five hundred

1550
01:09:42,770 --> 01:09:40,620
years it didn't take a wristwatch back

1551
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:42,780
to the Stone Age it doesn't mean that

1552
01:09:48,440 --> 01:09:44,850
it's extraterrestrial it's just like I

1553
01:09:50,660 --> 01:09:48,450
don't know exactly it could be at that

1554
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:50,670
time that there's maybe the scientists

1555
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:52,000
that created that if it

1556
01:09:59,370 --> 01:09:56,050
was a us-based person they just you know

1557
01:10:01,530 --> 01:09:59,380
maybe they died mysteriously a German so

1558
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:01,540
yeah if it was German and then they said

1559
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:05,440
oh yeah so they're just like we're not

1560
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:06,490
gonna share with you how this thing

1561
01:10:12,930 --> 01:10:09,040
works so we're trying to figure it out

1562
01:10:15,750 --> 01:10:12,940
doesn't necessarily and the other thing

1563
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:15,760
you have to remember is that if they put

1564
01:10:20,460 --> 01:10:17,290
it out there if they tell him it's an

1565
01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:20,470
alien vehicle the you know if he does

1566
01:10:24,660 --> 01:10:22,450
decide to go public what she decided to

1567
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:24,670
do then people are gonna laugh at him at

1568
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:26,050
least at that time and say oh that's

1569
01:10:31,230 --> 01:10:28,570
ridiculous by what kind of crack are you

1570
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:31,240
smoking you know now not so much

1571
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:33,730
right but you know it may have been

1572
01:10:38,970 --> 01:10:37,120
embedded disinformation so I do believe

1573
01:10:41,730 --> 01:10:38,980
that we have these vehicles I mean you

1574
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:41,740
know my my ex-wife and my my oldest son

1575
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:45,250
actually saw basically a rectangle fly

1576
01:10:50,940 --> 01:10:46,930
down we have a lot of weird stuff that

1577
01:10:52,740 --> 01:10:50,950
flies in our our skies here but they saw

1578
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:52,750
along with about five other people that

1579
01:11:02,520 --> 01:10:56,650
I know they saw a rectangle like a like

1580
01:11:05,220 --> 01:11:02,530
a cube like a block with no no control

1581
01:11:08,490 --> 01:11:05,230
surfaces no wings no nothing fly very

1582
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:08,500
quietly down my valley Wow

1583
01:11:14,250 --> 01:11:11,380
yeah and kind of income in the evening

1584
01:11:15,690 --> 01:11:14,260
and I trust them both implicitly and I

1585
01:11:17,220 --> 01:11:15,700
know they're not lying and they vote

1586
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:17,230
through the same thing independent of

1587
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:18,880
each other along with five other people

1588
01:11:23,370 --> 01:11:20,890
that I know that saw it as well I've

1589
01:11:23,850 --> 01:11:23,380
also seen I saw 14 of them with my

1590
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:23,860
ex-wife

1591
01:11:30,330 --> 01:11:27,550
I saw 14 of them have a dogfight over a

1592
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:30,340
town in a little town called Dixon

1593
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:32,170
watched them for over an hour have a

1594
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:34,330
dogfight then they then they made

1595
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:37,090
triangles and squares and circles and

1596
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:40,000
whatever so these things do exist you

1597
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:41,650
know it's impossible to know exactly

1598
01:11:47,340 --> 01:11:44,410
what they are right right but they do

1599
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:47,350
definitely exist tom so you you witness

1600
01:11:52,050 --> 01:11:49,090
these craft change shape from a

1601
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:52,060
rectangular prism they were no they were

1602
01:11:55,970 --> 01:11:55,360
flying in as perfect square God got it

1603
01:11:58,640 --> 01:11:55,980
yeah

1604
01:12:02,570 --> 01:11:58,650
got it and in a trial now what it did

1605
01:12:04,730 --> 01:12:02,580
see is the two of them peeled off and in

1606
01:12:08,690 --> 01:12:04,740
for a lot of reasons deafened do a

1607
01:12:11,630 --> 01:12:08,700
geology Dixon as a town is a very good

1608
01:12:14,210 --> 01:12:11,640
place to do to have radio transmitters

1609
01:12:16,730 --> 01:12:14,220
and so actually the voice of America an

1610
01:12:19,370 --> 01:12:16,740
old American propaganda station that we

1611
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:19,380
used to beam stuff out into Asia and

1612
01:12:24,890 --> 01:12:22,770
into Russia their primary transmitter

1613
01:12:27,290 --> 01:12:24,900
for the west coast is actually in Dixon

1614
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:27,300
the other of these two radio masts about

1615
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:31,010
15 miles apart and we watched for

1616
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:34,800
probably 45 minutes these two craft go

1617
01:12:39,290 --> 01:12:37,170
back and forth doing like wind sprints

1618
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:39,300
back and forth between these two towers

1619
01:12:43,550 --> 01:12:41,250
and in the moonlight you can actually

1620
01:12:45,500 --> 01:12:43,560
see them roll over and when they would

1621
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:45,510
roll over and come back they were

1622
01:12:53,450 --> 01:12:52,080
triangles so you know I don't know you

1623
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:53,460
know it makes me think that like you

1624
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:55,290
know like we were talking about Bob

1625
01:13:01,400 --> 01:12:57,570
Lazar and whatever he was looking at you

1626
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,410
know maybe maybe it could be you know an

1627
01:13:06,350 --> 01:13:03,120
extraterrestrial spacecraft it's

1628
01:13:09,380 --> 01:13:06,360
possible or maybe maybe it is just like

1629
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:09,390
a craft that was you know maybe reverse

1630
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:11,490
engineered or something from like you

1631
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:13,770
know the old school secret space program

1632
01:13:16,370 --> 01:13:15,360
that you know they found is they were

1633
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:16,380
trying to figure it out

1634
01:13:21,590 --> 01:13:17,730
it just kind of makes me wonder like

1635
01:13:23,660 --> 01:13:21,600
does that I mean is is that how deep I

1636
01:13:25,580 --> 01:13:23,670
guess or compartmentalize like maybe

1637
01:13:30,050 --> 01:13:25,590
these programs are that the government

1638
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:30,060
is studying stuff that certain people

1639
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:32,310
already know about you know like maybe

1640
01:13:38,740 --> 01:13:34,770
there's some guy in a room he's like no

1641
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:38,750
this is but you know we're gonna spin

1642
01:13:44,030 --> 01:13:41,130
explain I once knew a guy who was a

1643
01:13:47,150 --> 01:13:44,040
machinist I worked in a machine machine

1644
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:47,160
shop over in Livermore and these guys

1645
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:49,770
had this this phenomenal contract with

1646
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:52,050
the Navy and basically what they did is

1647
01:13:56,210 --> 01:13:54,090
they built a bolt that's all they

1648
01:13:58,820 --> 01:13:56,220
thought it was a bolt had to be cuts the

1649
01:14:00,530 --> 01:13:58,830
custom machined out of titanium so they

1650
01:14:02,270 --> 01:14:00,540
would make these bolts they're very big

1651
01:14:04,130 --> 01:14:02,280
bolts but they would custom machine

1652
01:14:06,980 --> 01:14:04,140
these bolts and they would just make

1653
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:06,990
copious amounts of these bolts but they

1654
01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:08,880
didn't know what the bolts were for the

1655
01:14:11,839 --> 01:14:09,689
whole contract

1656
01:14:12,979 --> 01:14:11,849
was to make a bowl well it turns out

1657
01:14:15,229 --> 01:14:12,989
that the bolts that they were

1658
01:14:17,330 --> 01:14:15,239
manufacturing were actually used on

1659
01:14:20,270 --> 01:14:17,340
nuclear reactors and submarines to bolt

1660
01:14:23,419 --> 01:14:20,280
them into the housing but they had no

1661
01:14:25,129 --> 01:14:23,429
idea so each part of the nuclear reactor

1662
01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:25,139
was farmed out to a different group of

1663
01:14:29,719 --> 01:14:27,689
people and only once the the thing

1664
01:14:31,759 --> 01:14:29,729
became Declassified did they learn oh

1665
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:31,769
well I made a bolt that fitted to a

1666
01:14:35,719 --> 01:14:34,050
nuclear reactor huh I mean yeah that's

1667
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:35,729
how I would do it if I was trying to

1668
01:14:41,449 --> 01:14:39,510
keep spills away yeah I man so I

1669
01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:41,459
wondered you know now that you say that

1670
01:14:44,979 --> 01:14:43,320
I wonder how many facilities and

1671
01:14:47,739 --> 01:14:44,989
manufacturers around the world are

1672
01:14:53,839 --> 01:14:47,749
manufacturing parts and pieces for

1673
01:14:55,969 --> 01:14:53,849
secret space program and I'll give you

1674
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:55,979
another one so going back to alternative

1675
01:15:01,250 --> 01:14:58,530
three right one of the notions of

1676
01:15:02,870 --> 01:15:01,260
alternative 3 you know to actually like

1677
01:15:04,669 --> 01:15:02,880
figure out what they're flying is

1678
01:15:07,250 --> 01:15:04,679
incredibly difficult because these

1679
01:15:09,830 --> 01:15:07,260
things are such black-budget operations

1680
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:09,840
and they they use so back in the 80s

1681
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:12,449
there's a big bruja that we were paying

1682
01:15:16,669 --> 01:15:15,090
the Air Force in the Army you know five

1683
01:15:19,580 --> 01:15:16,679
thousand dollars for a twenty dollar

1684
01:15:22,219 --> 01:15:19,590
toilet seat yeah well they do that over

1685
01:15:23,540 --> 01:15:22,229
at that time they were doing that over

1686
01:15:25,879 --> 01:15:23,550
billing because they were taking the

1687
01:15:27,859 --> 01:15:25,889
rest of the money and shutting shunting

1688
01:15:29,629 --> 01:15:27,869
it into these compartmentalized programs

1689
01:15:31,399 --> 01:15:29,639
hmm so they would over build for the

1690
01:15:32,779 --> 01:15:31,409
toilet seat they'd take the other you

1691
01:15:34,989 --> 01:15:32,789
know forty five hundred bucks and they

1692
01:15:37,939 --> 01:15:34,999
put it in into a program out of Lockheed

1693
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:37,949
right yeah just like the Aurora program

1694
01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:43,050
yeah well other interest industries have

1695
01:15:46,759 --> 01:15:44,729
done that like film they call I think

1696
01:15:48,979 --> 01:15:46,769
I'm gonna totally screw this up but

1697
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:48,989
there's a thing that they put on all of

1698
01:15:53,509 --> 01:15:51,840
the bills like it's called m99 but no

1699
01:15:55,729 --> 01:15:53,519
one knows when m99 but it's actually

1700
01:15:57,919 --> 01:15:55,739
just closed pens and they charge like 20

1701
01:16:01,540 --> 01:15:57,929
bucks a clothespin so they get extra

1702
01:16:03,919 --> 01:16:01,550
funding so it's the same concept same

1703
01:16:06,259 --> 01:16:03,929
concept and you have to remember is that

1704
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:06,269
these things are so highly

1705
01:16:11,629 --> 01:16:09,090
compartmentalized that nobody knows what

1706
01:16:13,729 --> 01:16:11,639
they're working on and you know it's not

1707
01:16:15,290 --> 01:16:13,739
beyond the pale that that Lockheed it

1708
01:16:18,350 --> 01:16:15,300
would have been running that operation

1709
01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:18,360
if it was at s4 walkie gave him some

1710
01:16:23,660 --> 01:16:22,380
sort of you know cover story because the

1711
01:16:26,270 --> 01:16:23,670
the guy that told them

1712
01:16:30,110 --> 01:16:26,280
we thought that it was true too and and

1713
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:30,120
the CIA the CIA used UFOs as a cover

1714
01:16:35,090 --> 01:16:32,970
story for the a12 it was the original

1715
01:16:37,340 --> 01:16:35,100
sr-71 that was operating at a groom lake

1716
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:37,350
so though that's proven like they

1717
01:16:41,660 --> 01:16:39,600
definitely said hey this was a oh yeah

1718
01:16:45,610 --> 01:16:41,670
this was aliens and then it was actually

1719
01:16:48,290 --> 01:16:45,620
just a black budget yeah yeah

1720
01:16:50,150 --> 01:16:48,300
interesting you know now going going

1721
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:50,160
back to alternative three so one of the

1722
01:16:55,460 --> 01:16:51,930
things they talked about an alternative

1723
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:55,470
three is it you need slave effectively

1724
01:16:59,960 --> 01:16:57,570
slave labor to men some of these

1725
01:17:01,790 --> 01:16:59,970
facilities right you know the people

1726
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:01,800
doing that the sewage systems the

1727
01:17:05,870 --> 01:17:04,110
electrical systems all this stuff you

1728
01:17:07,550 --> 01:17:05,880
know the maids clean you know mopping

1729
01:17:09,470 --> 01:17:07,560
the floor and all that conventional

1730
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:09,480
stuff you still need that even though

1731
01:17:16,610 --> 01:17:11,730
it's on Mars right right yeah though and

1732
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,620
in so in alternative three they call it

1733
01:17:21,260 --> 01:17:18,480
batch consignments they basically kidnap

1734
01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:21,270
people and ship them up there yeah and

1735
01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:22,980
so I thought to myself you know aside

1736
01:17:26,900 --> 01:17:24,840
from places like Africa where entire

1737
01:17:29,090 --> 01:17:26,910
villages will vanish and nobody can

1738
01:17:32,660 --> 01:17:29,100
explain it they're just gone you know

1739
01:17:35,060 --> 01:17:32,670
there has to be some way to see if that

1740
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:35,070
consignments are taking place and so I

1741
01:17:43,250 --> 01:17:41,040
got a I got a copy a PD or JPEG of the

1742
01:17:46,250 --> 01:17:43,260
map that David Pauley's Pollock Pauly

1743
01:17:48,740 --> 01:17:46,260
D's he uses to document were all these

1744
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:48,750
disappearances on national parks right

1745
01:17:55,010 --> 01:17:52,650
oh yeah yeah right so I over so I

1746
01:17:56,900 --> 01:17:55,020
overlaid it I overlaid it on top of the

1747
01:18:00,530 --> 01:17:56,910
map made by this guy named tall in like

1748
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:00,540
1991 and tall had supposedly been told

1749
01:18:05,420 --> 01:18:02,310
about all these super-secret saucer

1750
01:18:07,340 --> 01:18:05,430
bases all over all over the US and he

1751
01:18:09,140 --> 01:18:07,350
had this map of the western states with

1752
01:18:11,450 --> 01:18:09,150
all the underground rail lines and all

1753
01:18:14,540 --> 01:18:11,460
this stuff so I overlaid it and wouldn't

1754
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:14,550
you know that pretty much bang on those

1755
01:18:24,260 --> 01:18:17,310
clusters of disappearances sit where

1756
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:24,270
they're supposedly saucer bases so what

1757
01:18:27,620 --> 01:18:26,130
did when you did this was it just kind

1758
01:18:30,650 --> 01:18:27,630
of like you kind of knew it was gonna

1759
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:30,660
line up or was it a complete surprise it

1760
01:18:34,580 --> 01:18:32,250
was a surprise I just thought what the

1761
01:18:36,110 --> 01:18:34,590
hell I'll give it a shot Wow

1762
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:36,120
so what do you do after you you come

1763
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:37,170
across this information

1764
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:39,810
like who do you tell like putting myself

1765
01:18:45,020 --> 01:18:43,130
in the world a book okay there you go

1766
01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:45,030
what's the name of the book for people

1767
01:18:50,150 --> 01:18:47,760
that are listening and when I read it's

1768
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:50,160
called the secret Space Age man that's

1769
01:18:55,490 --> 01:18:53,280
awesome Wow so so all this stuff is just

1770
01:18:57,860 --> 01:18:55,500
deep-rooted this is all just evidence

1771
01:19:00,169 --> 01:18:57,870
and things that you're leading up to

1772
01:19:01,610 --> 01:19:00,179
there is a secret space program here's

1773
01:19:03,650 --> 01:19:01,620
all the evidence here's all the stuff I

1774
01:19:05,810 --> 01:19:03,660
can prove but here's the genesis of it

1775
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:05,820
yeah and I'll give you another one you

1776
01:19:10,910 --> 01:19:07,110
want a really great one that'll blow

1777
01:19:13,459 --> 01:19:10,920
your mind so you know the chemtrail

1778
01:19:15,410 --> 01:19:13,469
thing right yeah yeah okay so everybody

1779
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:15,420
chemtrail chemtrail chemtrail chemtrail

1780
01:19:19,810 --> 01:19:18,090
well there's an aircraft fleet there's a

1781
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:19,820
chemtrail fleet out there and whatever

1782
01:19:26,540 --> 01:19:23,090
no there's no chemtrail fleet so

1783
01:19:29,780 --> 01:19:26,550
basically they mix this this stuff into

1784
01:19:31,850 --> 01:19:29,790
the fuel so every every commercial

1785
01:19:33,890 --> 01:19:31,860
airliner is part of the chemtrails Lee

1786
01:19:36,590 --> 01:19:33,900
seems they just randomly mix it into the

1787
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:36,600
fuel there's actually there's actually a

1788
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:39,600
patent for an engine and what the engine

1789
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:42,330
in the patent for this engine it's a

1790
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:45,210
modification to a normal turbine engine

1791
01:19:50,930 --> 01:19:46,610
for any airliner

1792
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:50,940
okay okay 320 a 320 whatever doesn't

1793
01:19:53,810 --> 01:19:51,360
matter

1794
01:19:56,530 --> 01:19:53,820
so this modification to the engine

1795
01:19:59,900 --> 01:19:56,540
basically allows you to separate

1796
01:20:03,410 --> 01:19:59,910
material inside the fuel and to build to

1797
01:20:06,350 --> 01:20:03,420
shunt it out the side lot so the normal

1798
01:20:09,169 --> 01:20:06,360
the normal jp-7 the jet fuel goes into

1799
01:20:12,260 --> 01:20:09,179
the engine combust turbine yadda yadda

1800
01:20:14,750 --> 01:20:12,270
well there's a there's a mechanism that

1801
01:20:17,450 --> 01:20:14,760
is patented that allows you to separate

1802
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:17,460
certain things out of the fuel and blow

1803
01:20:22,250 --> 01:20:19,770
them out the side that's exactly what

1804
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:22,260
the what it's doing now I know the big

1805
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:25,050
here's here's where it gets better so

1806
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:26,250
you're wondering well what are

1807
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:28,050
chemtrails nobody has ever been able to

1808
01:20:32,450 --> 01:20:29,850
conclusively prove what a goddamn chem

1809
01:20:37,450 --> 01:20:32,460
trail is Yeah right we just know that we

1810
01:20:40,010 --> 01:20:37,460
see them blah blah okay so in the 80s

1811
01:20:42,650 --> 01:20:40,020
dr. Edward Teller the guy who invented

1812
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:42,660
the hydrogen bomb uh-huh teller teller

1813
01:20:48,410 --> 01:20:44,880
wrote a article called sunscreen for the

1814
01:20:50,900 --> 01:20:48,420
planet Earth and basically what he

1815
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:50,910
hypothesized was that if you

1816
01:20:56,660 --> 01:20:53,730
you took metallic particulate like

1817
01:20:58,220 --> 01:20:56,670
aluminium dumped it at high altitude it

1818
01:21:01,670 --> 01:20:58,230
would change the reflectivity of the

1819
01:21:04,190 --> 01:21:01,680
earth to cool it to reflect all the

1820
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:04,200
sunlight out okay and he thought this

1821
01:21:11,810 --> 01:21:08,730
was fantastic so what you see I call

1822
01:21:14,660 --> 01:21:11,820
this alternative 1.5 what you see is

1823
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:14,670
that if you actually look okay so

1824
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:16,050
there's this thing called global dimming

1825
01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:17,370
if you ever want to prove that

1826
01:21:21,650 --> 01:21:19,320
chemtrails are real there's this thing

1827
01:21:24,530 --> 01:21:21,660
called global dimming so what happened

1828
01:21:26,780 --> 01:21:24,540
was is it right after 9/11 happened a

1829
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:26,790
bunch of atmospheric scientists ran

1830
01:21:30,050 --> 01:21:28,320
outside and said oh my god there are no

1831
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:30,060
airplanes in the air because all

1832
01:21:34,190 --> 01:21:31,650
aircraft did pretty much over North

1833
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,200
America were shut down yeah for a few

1834
01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:36,960
days right right I remember that right

1835
01:21:41,300 --> 01:21:39,030
and so these guys all went outside

1836
01:21:42,650 --> 01:21:41,310
they're like oh my god this is a unique

1837
01:21:43,010 --> 01:21:42,660
thing that's never ever gonna happen

1838
01:21:46,430 --> 01:21:43,020
again

1839
01:21:48,350 --> 01:21:46,440
I hope I pray but that should never

1840
01:21:50,150 --> 01:21:48,360
happen again we got to take a bunch of

1841
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:50,160
measurements and they they proved

1842
01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:52,770
conclusively that the temperature of the

1843
01:21:57,620 --> 01:21:54,840
earth the temperature in the United

1844
01:21:59,770 --> 01:21:57,630
States at least rose by about one I

1845
01:22:04,160 --> 01:21:59,780
think was like one degree or two degrees

1846
01:22:07,790 --> 01:22:04,170
which is huge which is massive and and

1847
01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:07,800
the amount of light coming down to the

1848
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:09,540
surface of the earth increased

1849
01:22:14,270 --> 01:22:11,850
exponentially so if you've ever thought

1850
01:22:16,820 --> 01:22:14,280
yourself gosh it seems a lot darker than

1851
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:16,830
it used to when I was a kid it actually

1852
01:22:21,980 --> 01:22:20,370
is it's yeah it's scientifically proven

1853
01:22:23,900 --> 01:22:21,990
and one they called global dimming and

1854
01:22:25,610 --> 01:22:23,910
what it's one of the side effects of

1855
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:25,620
this shroud that they've created

1856
01:22:31,370 --> 01:22:29,850
worldwide so I'm thinking about just the

1857
01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:31,380
ramifications of that does that mean

1858
01:22:35,060 --> 01:22:32,820
that okay

1859
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:35,070
the powers that be know about this and

1860
01:22:39,410 --> 01:22:36,570
they've been just staving off the

1861
01:22:41,690 --> 01:22:39,420
effects just so we keep this economy in

1862
01:22:43,820 --> 01:22:41,700
this engine running just so we can keep

1863
01:22:47,090 --> 01:22:43,830
I mean what's the well what else are you

1864
01:22:49,370 --> 01:22:47,100
gonna do yeah you're screwed what are

1865
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:49,380
you gonna do you can't move everybody so

1866
01:22:54,410 --> 01:22:51,450
so what what brings me to this question

1867
01:22:56,540 --> 01:22:54,420
is do you think there's a a civilization

1868
01:22:58,820 --> 01:22:56,550
that did exist in the 50s and just

1869
01:23:00,860 --> 01:22:58,830
jumped planets and then now we're just

1870
01:23:03,290 --> 01:23:00,870
kind of left here to pick up the pieces

1871
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:03,300
and then some other you know another

1872
01:23:07,370 --> 01:23:04,650
City

1873
01:23:09,380 --> 01:23:07,380
I think the infrastructure went there in

1874
01:23:12,500 --> 01:23:09,390
the 50s and has been upgraded ever since

1875
01:23:15,530 --> 01:23:12,510
okay so so I mean it would only make

1876
01:23:18,140 --> 01:23:15,540
sense like maybe some elite people so

1877
01:23:20,750 --> 01:23:18,150
you know the top 1% the top point five

1878
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:20,760
percent would say hey take all my money

1879
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:23,730
y'all can have it I'm gonna jump ship go

1880
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:25,650
to Mars if y'all got some stuff there I

1881
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:27,930
just want to live you know and and and

1882
01:23:31,820 --> 01:23:29,970
you know leave and think I think the

1883
01:23:34,490 --> 01:23:31,830
infrastructure is there to do that when

1884
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:34,500
the time comes okay okay now I'll give

1885
01:23:40,250 --> 01:23:37,410
you know I'll get to that but I wanted

1886
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:40,260
to mention one thing before that it was

1887
01:23:49,430 --> 01:23:43,890
about the global domain yes everyone

1888
01:23:51,470 --> 01:23:49,440
sorry oh no that's okay oh yeah so the

1889
01:23:54,500 --> 01:23:51,480
idea was to dump this particulate in the

1890
01:23:57,020 --> 01:23:54,510
upper atmosphere right so one of the

1891
01:23:58,880 --> 01:23:57,030
things one of the things that's a

1892
01:24:00,530 --> 01:23:58,890
byproduct of that is it eventually falls

1893
01:24:03,470 --> 01:24:00,540
through the earth and you inhale it yeah

1894
01:24:04,580 --> 01:24:03,480
and it if you so there are two graphs I

1895
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:04,590
put them in the book but they're very

1896
01:24:09,140 --> 01:24:06,480
interesting one one shows the

1897
01:24:11,900 --> 01:24:09,150
temperature that was rising suddenly

1898
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:11,910
fall off in the 50s and kind of

1899
01:24:17,090 --> 01:24:14,610
stabilized with a few spikes okay all

1900
01:24:18,770 --> 01:24:17,100
this stuff happens in the late 50s the

1901
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:18,780
second thing is if you look at the rate

1902
01:24:24,620 --> 01:24:21,530
of Alzheimer's disease which is is

1903
01:24:28,490 --> 01:24:24,630
aluminum in your brain it exponentially

1904
01:24:31,490 --> 01:24:28,500
increases over time mmm and the ark the

1905
01:24:34,700 --> 01:24:31,500
ark the the pits and the valleys kind of

1906
01:24:36,380 --> 01:24:34,710
match the temperature so when you when

1907
01:24:38,390 --> 01:24:36,390
they're dumping more of this stuff up

1908
01:24:40,610 --> 01:24:38,400
there to try to control the temperature

1909
01:24:45,020 --> 01:24:40,620
and the weather you're you're seeing a

1910
01:24:45,980 --> 01:24:45,030
higher rate of Alzheimer's occur that's

1911
01:24:53,930 --> 01:24:45,990
huge

1912
01:24:56,660 --> 01:24:53,940
right so when people talk about how like

1913
01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:56,670
you know like obviously cars and all

1914
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:58,530
this stuff they contribute to climate

1915
01:25:02,780 --> 01:25:00,960
change and like oh oh one other thing

1916
01:25:04,450 --> 01:25:02,790
so when so the other thing I forgot is

1917
01:25:07,370 --> 01:25:04,460
that if you look at the same thing for

1918
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:07,380
this for the amount of light reaching

1919
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:09,450
the surface of the earth starting in the

1920
01:25:14,300 --> 01:25:13,440
50s it goes down really whoa that's

1921
01:25:18,020 --> 01:25:14,310
crazy

1922
01:25:19,939 --> 01:25:18,030
very interesting yeah so so then like

1923
01:25:23,390 --> 01:25:19,949
I mean so then planes are actually

1924
01:25:24,979 --> 01:25:23,400
helping keep the planet cool but the

1925
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:24,989
downside to that is that they're

1926
01:25:31,220 --> 01:25:27,409
spraying all this this crap all over us

1927
01:25:34,010 --> 01:25:31,230
yes but but it's the devil it's the

1928
01:25:36,049 --> 01:25:34,020
devil you know it's the double-edged

1929
01:25:37,879 --> 01:25:36,059
sword it's right what do you what do you

1930
01:25:39,229 --> 01:25:37,889
want do you want to burn to death or

1931
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:39,239
would you rather go crazy

1932
01:25:44,029 --> 01:25:41,610
so why with that thought I think a

1933
01:25:47,029 --> 01:25:44,039
rational human being would be like I I'd

1934
01:25:48,379 --> 01:25:47,039
rather not burn to death like why why do

1935
01:25:50,839 --> 01:25:48,389
you think maybe the government is

1936
01:25:53,959 --> 01:25:50,849
dealing with or whoever's responsible

1937
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:53,969
for this is kind of like hiding the fact

1938
01:25:58,720 --> 01:25:55,770
this even happened to you do you think

1939
01:26:00,979 --> 01:25:58,730
they're highly conscious yeah yeah yeah

1940
01:26:02,959 --> 01:26:00,989
I'll give you I'll give you another

1941
01:26:05,689 --> 01:26:02,969
example so you know these ghost cities

1942
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:05,699
these Chinese ghost cities right oh yeah

1943
01:26:10,459 --> 01:26:08,159
yeah so if you look at the positions of

1944
01:26:12,379 --> 01:26:10,469
the Chinese ghost cities right because

1945
01:26:14,750 --> 01:26:12,389
the Chinese have all the manpower labor

1946
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:14,760
in the world to build whatever the hell

1947
01:26:18,379 --> 01:26:16,650
they want because they just take a

1948
01:26:21,290 --> 01:26:18,389
million people and go build this I mean

1949
01:26:23,660 --> 01:26:21,300
for coronavirus they built they built an

1950
01:26:26,689 --> 01:26:23,670
entire thousand bed hospital in four

1951
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:26,699
days damn yeah so they have these cities

1952
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:28,530
that are scattered all over China that

1953
01:26:31,459 --> 01:26:30,000
are empty and they have a few people

1954
01:26:33,709 --> 01:26:31,469
live there like caretakers but they're

1955
01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:33,719
fully functional if you look at the

1956
01:26:39,229 --> 01:26:36,510
positions of those cities compared to

1957
01:26:42,020 --> 01:26:39,239
sea level rise the cities are basically

1958
01:26:44,410 --> 01:26:42,030
beachfront property property and if you

1959
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:44,420
look at them relative to to an ice age

1960
01:26:50,540 --> 01:26:47,760
because when the climate finally goes

1961
01:26:52,729 --> 01:26:50,550
that it's going to get super hot and

1962
01:26:53,990 --> 01:26:52,739
then it's gonna get super cold because

1963
01:26:56,060 --> 01:26:54,000
the climate will collapse

1964
01:26:58,459 --> 01:26:56,070
I'll just get insanely cold and plunges

1965
01:27:00,620 --> 01:26:58,469
into an ice age yeah but when that

1966
01:27:03,410 --> 01:27:00,630
happens if you look at the positions of

1967
01:27:08,299 --> 01:27:03,420
the cities they're at the ice line where

1968
01:27:09,649 --> 01:27:08,309
the where the ice will come down to well

1969
01:27:11,899 --> 01:27:09,659
so they're like you know they're like in

1970
01:27:15,770 --> 01:27:11,909
a have ability zone for the entire

1971
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:15,780
collapse sequence yeah so maybe explain

1972
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:17,730
to people that are not familiar with

1973
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:20,250
these Chinese ghost cities I mean I I've

1974
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:22,110
seen them but I don't know maybe if you

1975
01:27:24,260 --> 01:27:23,760
could talk to a little bit about that a

1976
01:27:26,089 --> 01:27:24,270
lot

1977
01:27:29,359 --> 01:27:26,099
well they're they're basically cities

1978
01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:29,369
that the Chinese government built for

1979
01:27:33,839 --> 01:27:31,710
like a million people there

1980
01:27:35,370 --> 01:27:33,849
everything is there the schools are

1981
01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:35,380
there they're equipped they have

1982
01:27:40,709 --> 01:27:37,840
hospitals are equipped they have you

1983
01:27:42,899 --> 01:27:40,719
know they have shopping centers movie

1984
01:27:45,629 --> 01:27:42,909
theaters bowling alleys high-rise

1985
01:27:50,370 --> 01:27:45,639
apartments everything is there but

1986
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:50,380
there's no people and so almost Buki

1987
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:52,960
right and so what we're commonly told is

1988
01:27:56,459 --> 01:27:54,610
while they the Chinese government needed

1989
01:27:58,740 --> 01:27:56,469
something to do and they know their

1990
01:28:01,080 --> 01:27:58,750
population is increasing so rapidly that

1991
01:28:01,950 --> 01:28:01,090
they just built them well people don't

1992
01:28:05,250 --> 01:28:01,960
do stuff like that

1993
01:28:07,229 --> 01:28:05,260
the Chinese Chinese mentality is the one

1994
01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:07,239
the Chinese think about problems they

1995
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:08,710
don't think about problems a year from

1996
01:28:13,260 --> 01:28:11,290
now they don't think about problems five

1997
01:28:15,959 --> 01:28:13,270
years from now just think about problems

1998
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:15,969
50 years or a hundred years or 500 years

1999
01:28:21,629 --> 01:28:18,400
from now and they lay the groundwork to

2000
01:28:24,359 --> 01:28:21,639
do that so they're preparing for that

2001
01:28:27,979 --> 01:28:24,369
long term thinking to move a massive

2002
01:28:33,330 --> 01:28:27,989
amount of a population into these areas

2003
01:28:36,390 --> 01:28:33,340
right Wow yeah why would you do that

2004
01:28:37,950 --> 01:28:36,400
that makes total sense no I do want to

2005
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:37,960
say that you know I do believe that some

2006
01:28:42,299 --> 01:28:40,210
UFOs are really I mean I'm not saying

2007
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:42,309
they're all not but I like to follow the

2008
01:28:48,419 --> 01:28:45,250
valley kind of the conversation the jock

2009
01:28:51,689 --> 01:28:48,429
Valley in and jail and Hynek add there

2010
01:28:53,549 --> 01:28:51,699
were it's that 90% of them are things

2011
01:28:56,189 --> 01:28:53,559
that we can explain they're piloted by

2012
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:56,199
people you know they're drones whatever

2013
01:29:01,379 --> 01:28:58,000
and then there's a 10% that's truly

2014
01:29:02,879 --> 01:29:01,389
anomalous and those are alien yeah but I

2015
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:02,889
don't think they're coming I don't think

2016
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:04,960
the blue chicken people do chickens fear

2017
01:29:09,089 --> 01:29:07,090
people simple people are coming down

2018
01:29:11,010 --> 01:29:09,099
from the sky to say I'm so glad you

2019
01:29:13,379 --> 01:29:11,020
reference there are no blue chicken

2020
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:13,389
circle people out there yeah we're the

2021
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:16,090
people that know that yeah just glad you

2022
01:29:28,169 --> 01:29:25,570
said that that's hilarious it's a sham

2023
01:29:29,850 --> 01:29:28,179
it's a it's a sham yeah and so that's I

2024
01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:29,860
guess that's that's the the story that I

2025
01:29:34,890 --> 01:29:31,510
was referring at the beginning of is

2026
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:34,900
yeah we I was I feel duped you know but

2027
01:29:38,729 --> 01:29:36,610
it really you know hearing that story

2028
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:38,739
kind of got me really interested in this

2029
01:29:43,709 --> 01:29:41,199
subject the secret space program but you

2030
01:29:44,890 --> 01:29:43,719
know it just kind of came out that a lot

2031
01:29:46,810 --> 01:29:44,900
of those ideas were

2032
01:29:48,100 --> 01:29:46,820
and from actual research and I think a

2033
01:29:51,010 --> 01:29:48,110
lot of that research might have been

2034
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:51,020
booked you know you know you're you know

2035
01:29:57,850 --> 01:29:55,250
you're screwed when somebody who

2036
01:29:59,410 --> 01:29:57,860
shellman remain nameless who avoided me

2037
01:30:01,960 --> 01:29:59,420
like the plague

2038
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:01,970
yeah publishes a picture and says oh my

2039
01:30:06,820 --> 01:30:04,130
god it's a Nazi it's a Nazi Space

2040
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:06,830
Station on the moon and it's a swastika

2041
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:09,050
look at that and it's actually a

2042
01:30:13,540 --> 01:30:11,690
freeze-frame from iron sky when that is

2043
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:13,550
the blurry thing on this guide as the

2044
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:15,890
proof you know you're screwed and

2045
01:30:23,010 --> 01:30:18,050
there's like a scene where a person's

2046
01:30:38,890 --> 01:30:36,730
that's like I said you know these

2047
01:30:41,290 --> 01:30:38,900
individual shall remain nameless right

2048
01:30:46,770 --> 01:30:41,300
right I wanted to make a shirt that said

2049
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:49,390
well he's apparently trademarked all

2050
01:30:51,220 --> 01:30:50,690
this stuff so I don't want to get in

2051
01:30:58,690 --> 01:30:51,230
trouble

2052
01:30:59,920 --> 01:30:58,700
yeah supposedly but can you trademark we

2053
01:31:01,300 --> 01:30:59,930
have a couple of episodes of the

2054
01:31:03,250 --> 01:31:01,310
beginning when we just started this

2055
01:31:06,030 --> 01:31:03,260
podcast and we have to like go back and

2056
01:31:08,620 --> 01:31:06,040
explain like hey y'all we did not know

2057
01:31:12,220 --> 01:31:08,630
this guy was a fraud sorry

2058
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:12,230
so I mean yeah it's good to hear someone

2059
01:31:15,550 --> 01:31:13,730
who's been into this for a really long

2060
01:31:17,890 --> 01:31:15,560
time kind of speak - yeah we don't have

2061
01:31:21,340 --> 01:31:17,900
to say names but look I I think I think

2062
01:31:23,710 --> 01:31:21,350
that if we if we say to ourselves hey we

2063
01:31:26,140 --> 01:31:23,720
can't build the pyramids hey we can't

2064
01:31:27,850 --> 01:31:26,150
get to the moon hey we can't get to Mars

2065
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:27,860
I think we're shortchanging ourselves

2066
01:31:32,170 --> 01:31:30,290
absolutely as human beings we're

2067
01:31:33,970 --> 01:31:32,180
perfectly capable of building us

2068
01:31:37,050 --> 01:31:33,980
faithfully if that's what we want to do

2069
01:31:40,740 --> 01:31:37,060
right right so where do you think we are

2070
01:31:43,480 --> 01:31:40,750
today I mean do you think this is still

2071
01:31:45,550 --> 01:31:43,490
still going on do you think it kind of

2072
01:31:48,460 --> 01:31:45,560
died off I mean do you know I mean not

2073
01:31:51,220 --> 01:31:48,470
at all it's just more advanced more you

2074
01:31:55,170 --> 01:31:51,230
know more advanced far more

2075
01:31:58,189 --> 01:31:55,180
sophisticated man or far more covert

2076
01:32:00,830 --> 01:31:58,199
yeah I mean you know I

2077
01:32:03,709 --> 01:32:00,840
it's funny there's a very there's a very

2078
01:32:09,589 --> 01:32:03,719
famous thing that the buzz aldrin talks

2079
01:32:13,009 --> 01:32:09,599
about in a magnificent desolation and

2080
01:32:15,589 --> 01:32:13,019
buzz buzz aldrin said I love buzz you

2081
01:32:18,469 --> 01:32:15,599
know he's he's my kind of national hero

2082
01:32:20,810 --> 01:32:18,479
and I love this guy and so there are two

2083
01:32:23,660 --> 01:32:20,820
things about but so one he he went he

2084
01:32:25,250 --> 01:32:23,670
did this interview on c-span and he said

2085
01:32:27,649 --> 01:32:25,260
two things were very interesting one is

2086
01:32:30,229 --> 01:32:27,659
it the guy asked him hey where did you

2087
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:30,239
get the name magnificent desolation and

2088
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:32,489
he said he said that when he when he was

2089
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:34,650
on the moon he's looking around and he

2090
01:32:38,540 --> 01:32:36,239
just kind of blows your mind and he said

2091
01:32:40,759 --> 01:32:38,550
he came back to earth and obviously he

2092
01:32:43,609 --> 01:32:40,769
got invited to a cocktail party I'm sure

2093
01:32:45,859 --> 01:32:43,619
he got invited to many yeah and somebody

2094
01:32:50,449 --> 01:32:45,869
somebody walked up to him and I said hey

2095
01:32:54,109 --> 01:32:50,459
buzz can you can you describe the moon

2096
01:32:59,149 --> 01:32:54,119
and he said and remember he's the guy

2097
01:33:08,689 --> 01:32:59,159
that the punched of Burt's a bro yeah I

2098
01:33:11,899 --> 01:33:08,699
was like you never said that he said

2099
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:11,909
that his mind went completely blank he

2100
01:33:16,009 --> 01:33:14,010
blurted out magnificent desolation

2101
01:33:19,189 --> 01:33:16,019
he felt nauseous went to the bathroom

2102
01:33:21,140 --> 01:33:19,199
and vomited and that's a that's a

2103
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:21,150
classic that's a classic mind control

2104
01:33:26,270 --> 01:33:23,130
response yeah I was gonna say it sounds

2105
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:26,280
like control type stuff yeah but but so

2106
01:33:31,580 --> 01:33:28,650
I think I think that they already saw it

2107
01:33:34,580 --> 01:33:31,590
fully functional when they landed and

2108
01:33:36,979 --> 01:33:34,590
they were conditioned to not be able to

2109
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:36,989
tell you what they saw now in the same

2110
01:33:42,859 --> 01:33:39,840
in the same interview right I actually

2111
01:33:49,279 --> 01:33:42,869
wrote an article about it in the same

2112
01:33:51,290 --> 01:33:49,289
interview this guy's like you know buzz

2113
01:33:52,850 --> 01:33:51,300
so you're a big fan of Mars Express and

2114
01:33:54,919 --> 01:33:52,860
going back to Mars I'm gonna we're going

2115
01:33:57,529 --> 01:33:54,929
to Mars I want every goes yes yes s and

2116
01:34:00,109 --> 01:33:57,539
he gets super excited and animated he

2117
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:00,119
says well you know what do you think he

2118
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:02,249
says look I'm gonna paraphrase he says

2119
01:34:07,399 --> 01:34:05,130
look there's some weird stuff there and

2120
01:34:10,129 --> 01:34:07,409
we need to go with people and go see

2121
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:10,139
what this weird stuff is and he said you

2122
01:34:16,359 --> 01:34:12,050
know there's a monolith on one of the

2123
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:16,369
moons on Mars on Phobos Phobos he says I

2124
01:34:20,589 --> 01:34:17,570
don't know who put it there

2125
01:34:22,750 --> 01:34:20,599
God the universe I don't know who put it

2126
01:34:24,069 --> 01:34:22,760
there but we need to go see it and we

2127
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:24,079
need to figure out what this thing is

2128
01:34:29,500 --> 01:34:27,530
and right then right and he's getting

2129
01:34:31,180 --> 01:34:29,510
really excited right then the guy who

2130
01:34:33,220 --> 01:34:31,190
associate shows like yeah yeah oh we

2131
01:34:36,669 --> 01:34:33,230
have a phone call and this guy calls up

2132
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:36,679
he's all Oh dr. Aldrin cuz he has a PhD

2133
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:38,000
in mechanical engineering

2134
01:34:43,540 --> 01:34:40,400
dr. Aldrin you know you you worked on on

2135
01:34:45,129 --> 01:34:43,550
the on the the airlock system for the

2136
01:34:46,149 --> 01:34:45,139
International Space Station's can you

2137
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:46,159
tell me all about it

2138
01:34:50,319 --> 01:34:48,290
and it was almost like calculated

2139
01:34:52,750 --> 01:34:50,329
because you can see buzz get like

2140
01:34:54,490 --> 01:34:52,760
confused for a minute and then kind of

2141
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:54,500
kick kind of kicking an engineer buzz

2142
01:35:01,120 --> 01:34:57,770
right you know I think it's breaking

2143
01:35:03,700 --> 01:35:01,130
down now like I think I think by the

2144
01:35:06,069 --> 01:35:03,710
time those poor guys went I think him

2145
01:35:09,549 --> 01:35:06,079
and because remember they landed off

2146
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:09,559
target if you if you listen to the to

2147
01:35:15,879 --> 01:35:13,760
the module descent what you hear is Neil

2148
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:15,889
Armstrong's flying the thing and he's

2149
01:35:23,189 --> 01:35:18,290
like okay buzz read me the read me the

2150
01:35:25,270 --> 01:35:23,199
the fuel consumption and altitude and so

2151
01:35:27,399 --> 01:35:25,280
Aldrin is reading off the fuel

2152
01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:27,409
consumption and altitude because they're

2153
01:35:32,770 --> 01:35:28,880
off target and they're running out of

2154
01:35:34,510 --> 01:35:32,780
fuel and so Oh so Neil Armstrong is just

2155
01:35:37,990 --> 01:35:34,520
trying to put the baby down somewhere I

2156
01:35:40,899 --> 01:35:38,000
didn't know yeah and so they they landed

2157
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:40,909
significantly off target and so because

2158
01:35:45,879 --> 01:35:42,770
of that it wasn't prepared for them and

2159
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:45,889
I'm sure they saw stuff dad man that's

2160
01:35:50,109 --> 01:35:48,650
crazy so crazy what do you what do you

2161
01:35:51,549 --> 01:35:50,119
think about people that think that we

2162
01:35:55,750 --> 01:35:51,559
did not go to the moon I'm just curious

2163
01:35:58,089 --> 01:35:55,760
I have always believed and maintained

2164
01:35:59,859 --> 01:35:58,099
that we absolutely once any man it does

2165
01:36:02,799 --> 01:35:59,869
not mean that what you see coming from

2166
01:36:04,299 --> 01:36:02,809
the moon is real alright because if you

2167
01:36:06,069 --> 01:36:04,309
see them driving the lunar rover around

2168
01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:06,079
it's like Looney Tunes it's the same

2169
01:36:11,020 --> 01:36:08,510
like three mountains yeah yeah you know

2170
01:36:13,089 --> 01:36:11,030
and also yeah there's some photos and

2171
01:36:15,790 --> 01:36:13,099
video that just I think I think it's

2172
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:15,800
it's it's a mixture of things I believe

2173
01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:17,449
we went to the moon I'm sure but I think

2174
01:36:20,709 --> 01:36:19,040
some of the stuff the public have seems

2175
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:20,719
fake yeah yeah totally

2176
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:23,210
absolutely I agree that doesn't mean we

2177
01:36:27,530 --> 01:36:25,050
didn't go yeah you can right

2178
01:36:30,350 --> 01:36:27,540
when when the lunar assent module took

2179
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:30,360
off that the base unit is still there

2180
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:32,310
and if you have a powerful enough

2181
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:34,650
telescope you can actually see the

2182
01:36:39,890 --> 01:36:36,770
lander the lower part of the module

2183
01:36:42,500 --> 01:36:39,900
sitting on the moon so it's not like we

2184
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:42,510
did go right right and one of the other

2185
01:36:47,060 --> 01:36:44,250
things is they put up a series of

2186
01:36:49,730 --> 01:36:47,070
mirrors and what they do is they fire

2187
01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:49,740
lasers to those mirrors to do

2188
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:52,110
range-finding to figure out how close or

2189
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:55,410
far the moon is from the earth well if

2190
01:37:01,310 --> 01:36:57,930
we never went how did that how did that

2191
01:37:03,710 --> 01:37:01,320
that you know yeah I think it's some

2192
01:37:05,810 --> 01:37:03,720
dude from some dude from from moon base

2193
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:05,820
alpha didn't drive his you know rover

2194
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:07,770
over and drop it off I think

2195
01:37:12,140 --> 01:37:10,650
Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong and the

2196
01:37:14,510 --> 01:37:12,150
rest of the guys that went I think they

2197
01:37:16,190 --> 01:37:14,520
they went through the process that it

2198
01:37:17,870 --> 01:37:16,200
was all very legitimate yeah I just

2199
01:37:19,460 --> 01:37:17,880
think they doctored some of the photos

2200
01:37:21,950 --> 01:37:19,470
and the doctor the footage right yeah

2201
01:37:27,290 --> 01:37:21,960
totally I think that too so do you think

2202
01:37:30,350 --> 01:37:27,300
that the the the everyday you know space

2203
01:37:31,850 --> 01:37:30,360
program that the public sees do you feel

2204
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:31,860
like maybe that's like a front for

2205
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:34,290
something or do you believe they are

2206
01:37:40,270 --> 01:37:37,650
yeah I mean I also like have the idea to

2207
01:37:44,630 --> 01:37:40,280
they're like there are like honest

2208
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:44,640
hard-working people who believe that we

2209
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:47,370
are actually going to space right now

2210
01:37:52,340 --> 01:37:49,770
and they're also work into it yeah yeah

2211
01:37:54,140 --> 01:37:52,350
yeah they're proud of working no I don't

2212
01:37:55,610 --> 01:37:54,150
think any of that is fake I you know

2213
01:37:58,250 --> 01:37:55,620
I've known people who work for NASA

2214
01:38:00,710 --> 01:37:58,260
uh-huh you know there they are as pure

2215
01:38:02,300 --> 01:38:00,720
and honest as the driven snow and they

2216
01:38:04,340 --> 01:38:02,310
really believe in what they're doing and

2217
01:38:06,830 --> 01:38:04,350
I think that that that's all part of the

2218
01:38:08,420 --> 01:38:06,840
game that they the NASA is although

2219
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:08,430
there are some weird things about NASA

2220
01:38:15,140 --> 01:38:12,360
but in general NASA is very much you

2221
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:15,150
know on on the day-to-day operations a

2222
01:38:18,890 --> 01:38:16,770
hundred percent honest and what they're

2223
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:18,900
doing I think there's there's some

2224
01:38:23,930 --> 01:38:20,730
people in the hierarchy of NASA that are

2225
01:38:25,850 --> 01:38:23,940
not I think that there are you know

2226
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:25,860
there are some elements within NASA that

2227
01:38:31,790 --> 01:38:29,850
are doctoring things you know but yeah

2228
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:31,800
like you think the most people don't

2229
01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:33,570
work at NASA

2230
01:38:39,089 --> 01:38:36,750
yeah I mean yeah that makes sense the

2231
01:38:41,310 --> 01:38:39,099
the front of it and

2232
01:38:42,779 --> 01:38:41,320
why would you let the people know and

2233
01:38:44,609 --> 01:38:42,789
let the rest of the world know what

2234
01:38:47,879 --> 01:38:44,619
you're working on it only makes sense if

2235
01:38:50,129 --> 01:38:47,889
there's a public-facing space program

2236
01:38:51,659 --> 01:38:50,139
like yeah we're not gonna show y'all

2237
01:38:54,619 --> 01:38:51,669
everything and we're not even gonna tell

2238
01:38:57,599 --> 01:38:54,629
these astronauts everything why would we

2239
01:38:59,879 --> 01:38:57,609
yeah so I guess I kind of got off topic

2240
01:39:01,619 --> 01:38:59,889
but hey I wanted to ask you so have you

2241
01:39:03,719 --> 01:39:01,629
seen these interviews with current

2242
01:39:05,489 --> 01:39:03,729
astronauts and them explaining that we

2243
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:05,499
don't have the technology to go to the

2244
01:39:12,689 --> 01:39:10,209
moon anymore have you seen that and what

2245
01:39:16,429 --> 01:39:12,699
I what I always go back to is there was

2246
01:39:18,389 --> 01:39:16,439
a Cal Tech alumni dinner where uh

2247
01:39:23,549 --> 01:39:18,399
what's-his-name the head of the skunk

2248
01:39:29,729 --> 01:39:23,559
works been rich yes then we're lucky

2249
01:39:32,009 --> 01:39:29,739
mark yeah anyone's been rich he went to

2250
01:39:35,129 --> 01:39:32,019
a lot he went to a Cal Tech alumni

2251
01:39:38,429 --> 01:39:35,139
dinner and Jan marzan who's now had a

2252
01:39:39,839 --> 01:39:38,439
MUFON was actually there is a Cal Tech

2253
01:39:43,139 --> 01:39:39,849
alumni and he attests this is the

2254
01:39:44,399 --> 01:39:43,149
honest-to-god truth the that he been

2255
01:39:46,469 --> 01:39:44,409
rich was a founder I'm thinking of

2256
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:46,479
somebody else the second guy not been

2257
01:39:50,929 --> 01:39:49,209
rich the other guy but anyway he went to

2258
01:39:53,129 --> 01:39:50,939
a Cal Tech Alumni dinner and he said

2259
01:39:56,009 --> 01:39:53,139
Point Blank he said you know what not

2260
01:39:58,169 --> 01:39:56,019
only do I have the but not only do I

2261
01:40:01,319 --> 01:39:58,179
have the technology to take e.t home I

2262
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:01,329
got the contract so a guy like that does

2263
01:40:06,330 --> 01:40:04,570
not say not only can I not only do I

2264
01:40:09,139 --> 01:40:06,340
have the technology to take e.t home I

2265
01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:09,149
got the contract unless he does yeah

2266
01:40:14,939 --> 01:40:13,209
yeah talk about yeah and that's and

2267
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:14,949
that's ahead of the Lockheed skunkworks

2268
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:18,489
yeah so you know it's yeah I think we

2269
01:40:22,469 --> 01:40:20,530
absolutely have the ability to do it but

2270
01:40:24,839 --> 01:40:22,479
again I think that those astronauts that

2271
01:40:27,349 --> 01:40:24,849
are saying that they're not in DARPA

2272
01:40:30,119 --> 01:40:27,359
they're not working for Lockheed right I

2273
01:40:33,659 --> 01:40:30,129
think they're expressing to you with a

2274
01:40:38,899 --> 01:40:33,669
hundred percent honesty great I think

2275
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:38,909
that's you absolutely yeah I mean if I

2276
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:42,010
don't you know you you can't walk up to

2277
01:40:46,649 --> 01:40:44,050
an astrophysicist who works for the ESA

2278
01:40:48,569 --> 01:40:46,659
or NASA and say you're lying you're

2279
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:48,579
lying how do you know they're lying they

2280
01:40:51,819 --> 01:40:50,169
go to work every day they work on

2281
01:40:54,729 --> 01:40:51,829
satellites or

2282
01:40:56,409 --> 01:40:54,739
or Radio Astronomy or whatever you know

2283
01:40:57,939 --> 01:40:56,419
they're they're doing what they believe

2284
01:41:00,009 --> 01:40:57,949
in I don't think they're lying at all

2285
01:41:01,959 --> 01:41:00,019
yeah that also doesn't mean that

2286
01:41:05,259 --> 01:41:01,969
everything that comes out of NASA or the

2287
01:41:06,429 --> 01:41:05,269
or any government it's true yeah yeah

2288
01:41:08,259 --> 01:41:06,439
yeah I think that's an important thing

2289
01:41:10,359 --> 01:41:08,269
for people to realize because you know

2290
01:41:12,759 --> 01:41:10,369
I'm you know I mean that same exact boat

2291
01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:12,769
like you know everybody's like Oh NASA's

2292
01:41:19,599 --> 01:41:16,639
fake NASA you know does this yeah never

2293
01:41:21,129 --> 01:41:19,609
straight answer or nuking [\h__\h] space

2294
01:41:22,750 --> 01:41:21,139
aliens whatever you want to call it you

2295
01:41:24,909 --> 01:41:22,760
know and it's it's one of those things

2296
01:41:26,739 --> 01:41:24,919
where it's like yeah I mean but these

2297
01:41:29,049 --> 01:41:26,749
people you know they're going to work

2298
01:41:30,939 --> 01:41:29,059
they're doing their job that's exactly

2299
01:41:34,060 --> 01:41:30,949
what they believe and they can only tell

2300
01:41:36,219 --> 01:41:34,070
you yeah I'll give you a fantastic

2301
01:41:41,919 --> 01:41:36,229
example so when's the last time you use

2302
01:41:43,479 --> 01:41:41,929
GPS today okay Dee so there's a

2303
01:41:47,109 --> 01:41:43,489
constellation of satellites up there

2304
01:41:48,310 --> 01:41:47,119
right the GPS satellites and we all rely

2305
01:41:50,739 --> 01:41:48,320
on them mm-hmm

2306
01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:50,749
do you know what they actually did want

2307
01:41:57,119 --> 01:41:52,729
it well they're multifunctional do you

2308
01:42:04,869 --> 01:42:02,949
okay no so so the GPS satellites are

2309
01:42:07,209 --> 01:42:04,879
actually owned by the Air Force so when

2310
01:42:09,639 --> 01:42:07,219
you use GPS you're using an Air Force

2311
01:42:11,889 --> 01:42:09,649
satellite what those satellites were

2312
01:42:13,149 --> 01:42:11,899
actually are actually really doing is

2313
01:42:15,159 --> 01:42:13,159
that they have something called Flash

2314
01:42:16,629 --> 01:42:15,169
detector so in every one of those

2315
01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:16,639
satellites because of the way that they

2316
01:42:21,069 --> 01:42:19,129
travel right they get a great view of

2317
01:42:23,739 --> 01:42:21,079
everything when there's a nuclear

2318
01:42:26,919 --> 01:42:23,749
detonation like a nuclear above-ground

2319
01:42:28,869 --> 01:42:26,929
nuclear test the flash detector will see

2320
01:42:31,629 --> 01:42:28,879
it and it can tell not only where it was

2321
01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:31,639
because it's a damn GPS satellite right

2322
01:42:35,919 --> 01:42:34,159
not only can it tell where it was it can

2323
01:42:38,649 --> 01:42:35,929
tell it can tell the strength of the

2324
01:42:40,270 --> 01:42:38,659
nuclear detonation what kind of material

2325
01:42:44,139 --> 01:42:40,280
was it used in the nuclear detonation

2326
01:42:47,799 --> 01:42:44,149
and in some some cases where that that

2327
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:47,809
nuclear material was found oh and it's

2328
01:42:54,939 --> 01:42:51,530
on every GPS satellite damn nuclear

2329
01:42:56,919 --> 01:42:54,949
detected detection devices first and

2330
01:42:59,799 --> 01:42:56,929
formulas that nation that nation

2331
01:43:01,899 --> 01:42:59,809
detection of us got it but it's not a

2332
01:43:03,429 --> 01:43:01,909
it's not exactly a secret but they don't

2333
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:03,439
they don't just they just don't talk

2334
01:43:07,060 --> 01:43:05,690
about it right now the guys the built

2335
01:43:08,290 --> 01:43:07,070
lights you know they probably didn't

2336
01:43:09,970 --> 01:43:08,300
even think about it yeah they're

2337
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:09,980
probably like well it's gonna help it's

2338
01:43:12,370 --> 01:43:11,930
gonna help the military you know know

2339
01:43:14,140 --> 01:43:12,380
where they are

2340
01:43:16,420 --> 01:43:14,150
eventually it'll help you drive to the

2341
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:16,430
7-eleven whatever but there's a

2342
01:43:22,330 --> 01:43:18,770
byproduct of it they just don't talk

2343
01:43:25,020 --> 01:43:22,340
about it so you know yeah I mean NASA is

2344
01:43:27,729 --> 01:43:25,030
filled with wonderful amazing people

2345
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:27,739
doing amazing amazing things that they

2346
01:43:31,930 --> 01:43:30,050
don't work for DARPA right they don't

2347
01:43:33,820 --> 01:43:31,940
work for Lockheed so if they don't work

2348
01:43:38,380 --> 01:43:33,830
for Lockheed or DARPA they probably

2349
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:38,390
don't know right so there's always like

2350
01:43:45,060 --> 01:43:40,250
a another side of the coin or maybe

2351
01:43:50,110 --> 01:43:48,640
sorry a wife a wise old man once told me

2352
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:50,120
that if you ever want to hide something

2353
01:43:55,570 --> 01:43:53,360
you hide it under the flagpole huh

2354
01:43:57,070 --> 01:43:55,580
meaning me meaning that if you want to

2355
01:43:59,740 --> 01:43:57,080
hide something you hide it in plain

2356
01:44:01,180 --> 01:43:59,750
sight right because nobody ever looks

2357
01:44:03,729 --> 01:44:01,190
well that makes me think of like you

2358
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:03,739
hide it under like patriotism you know

2359
01:44:09,189 --> 01:44:06,290
that like my conspiratorial tureen is

2360
01:44:11,290 --> 01:44:09,199
going back to but it's it's right in

2361
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:11,300
front of you in fact in conspiracy

2362
01:44:14,620 --> 01:44:12,530
theory there's a thing called the

2363
01:44:16,570 --> 01:44:14,630
revelation of the method and that's

2364
01:44:19,540 --> 01:44:16,580
that's this notion that when they do

2365
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:19,550
something conspiratorial they they show

2366
01:44:22,750 --> 01:44:21,199
it to you before they do it so you

2367
01:44:23,709 --> 01:44:22,760
actually see what they're going to do

2368
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:23,719
before they do it

2369
01:44:27,790 --> 01:44:26,090
you just don't believe it and I'll give

2370
01:44:29,890 --> 01:44:27,800
you a great example of that so you

2371
01:44:32,770 --> 01:44:29,900
remember that miniseries the x-files

2372
01:44:34,900 --> 01:44:32,780
miniseries yeah and there was a whole

2373
01:44:37,420 --> 01:44:34,910
allusion to the secret space program in

2374
01:44:39,610 --> 01:44:37,430
that that series uh-huh

2375
01:44:43,390 --> 01:44:39,620
yeah that's literally my book condense

2376
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:43,400
down to two what four episodes oh damn

2377
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:46,250
really it's littered it's literally my

2378
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:48,410
book when I when I watch the last one

2379
01:44:52,689 --> 01:44:50,210
that the bit where I wrote an article

2380
01:44:54,910 --> 01:44:52,699
about it the bit were Mulder and Scully

2381
01:44:56,350 --> 01:44:54,920
er behind the car and scars like I don't

2382
01:44:58,479 --> 01:44:56,360
believe it I don't believe it please out

2383
01:45:02,709 --> 01:44:58,489
this whole thing about you know about

2384
01:45:04,630 --> 01:45:02,719
the the climate collapsing and moving

2385
01:45:06,010 --> 01:45:04,640
people to Mars and all that crap yeah I

2386
01:45:08,620 --> 01:45:06,020
called up one of my friends on my tooth

2387
01:45:11,380 --> 01:45:08,630
did Chris Carter just quoted my book

2388
01:45:12,850 --> 01:45:11,390
that's insane so I mean were you

2389
01:45:13,330 --> 01:45:12,860
flattered and I was you're like where's

2390
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:13,340
my paycheck

2391
01:45:18,090 --> 01:45:15,730
[Laughter]

2392
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:18,100
it's so quick man you know I was

2393
01:45:23,250 --> 01:45:20,110
actually told I was actually told by

2394
01:45:24,750 --> 01:45:23,260
somebody that has the connection to it

2395
01:45:26,820 --> 01:45:24,760
that that's exactly what they did that

2396
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:26,830
Chris Carter literally read my book and

2397
01:45:31,140 --> 01:45:28,570
then filmed it as the x-files

2398
01:45:33,890 --> 01:45:31,150
Wow if you read my book and then watch

2399
01:45:37,170 --> 01:45:33,900
that you'll totally understand yes yes

2400
01:45:40,530 --> 01:45:37,180
yeah I plan on I plan on purchasing that

2401
01:45:42,180 --> 01:45:40,540
pretty soon when I started looking it up

2402
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:42,190
I was like oh that's gonna be a great

2403
01:45:55,950 --> 01:45:52,170
do your day blue blow my mind dude I've

2404
01:45:58,320 --> 01:45:55,960
been told that before it's good stuff

2405
01:46:00,510 --> 01:45:58,330
hey so if you don't mind I want to

2406
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:00,520
switch gears just a little bit

2407
01:46:07,380 --> 01:46:04,570
I loved your your your interpretation on

2408
01:46:10,700 --> 01:46:07,390
what you thought was going on with the

2409
01:46:13,890 --> 01:46:10,710
Hellyer series me we're super into that

2410
01:46:17,130 --> 01:46:13,900
and I know you're kind of like into the

2411
01:46:19,290 --> 01:46:17,140
occult stuff as well I mean yeah dude

2412
01:46:21,060 --> 01:46:19,300
could you kind of like give us the

2413
01:46:23,729 --> 01:46:21,070
rundown a little bit cuz I've heard a

2414
01:46:26,820 --> 01:46:23,739
little bit of it but bin bin hasn't

2415
01:46:30,060 --> 01:46:26,830
heard it yet I'm so stoked well so so

2416
01:46:32,580 --> 01:46:30,070
basically basically the big I watched it

2417
01:46:35,070 --> 01:46:32,590
and I actually publish the complete

2418
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:35,080
cipher of the UFO knots uh-huh which is

2419
01:46:40,020 --> 01:46:36,850
what they use in the show they actually

2420
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:40,030
show it yeah and I'm friends with Allen

2421
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:41,530
Greenfield the guy who wrote it right

2422
01:46:46,470 --> 01:46:43,930
big big fan of Allen Greenfield in fact

2423
01:46:48,090 --> 01:46:46,480
he's been helping me a lot so I watched

2424
01:46:49,650 --> 01:46:48,100
the whole thing and I'm like they're

2425
01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:49,660
they're beat they're going through an

2426
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:52,030
invocation right that this whole thing

2427
01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:53,890
is some sort of a it's called a working

2428
01:46:57,680 --> 01:46:55,570
where it's a bunch it's a series of

2429
01:47:01,800 --> 01:46:57,690
rituals that culminate in a big ritual

2430
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:01,810
right so like the beginning like

2431
01:47:07,170 --> 01:47:03,730
invocation in like the Catholic religion

2432
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:07,180
is like the first pray like introduction

2433
01:47:12,750 --> 01:47:10,090
or exactly yes and and they're being

2434
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:12,760
initiated into the working itself and

2435
01:47:16,650 --> 01:47:13,930
they're going through the hero's journey

2436
01:47:19,170 --> 01:47:16,660
and all this other stuff so one of the

2437
01:47:21,810 --> 01:47:19,180
big questions I asked my stupid

2438
01:47:23,700 --> 01:47:21,820
questions I asked myself initially and

2439
01:47:25,950 --> 01:47:23,710
then the obvious third question came

2440
01:47:28,140 --> 01:47:25,960
along first question is why down there

2441
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:28,150
they're like the totally long people to

2442
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:29,850
do this

2443
01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:32,110
right there ghost hunters they're

2444
01:47:37,710 --> 01:47:35,350
traveling haunted stuff exhibit which is

2445
01:47:40,260 --> 01:47:37,720
told looks totally awesome I totally

2446
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:40,270
want to see it and I'm big fans a big

2447
01:47:44,970 --> 01:47:42,570
fan I think the show is great yada yada

2448
01:47:48,060 --> 01:47:44,980
but they're the wrong people to do this

2449
01:47:50,580 --> 01:47:48,070
she's a she's a Wiccan this kind of

2450
01:47:52,770 --> 01:47:50,590
occultism is not wicka wicka is a nature

2451
01:47:55,140 --> 01:47:52,780
religion this is hardcore Aleister

2452
01:47:57,060 --> 01:47:55,150
Crowley time this is some big you know

2453
01:47:59,190 --> 01:47:57,070
they're trying to invoke Pam spoiler

2454
01:48:03,360 --> 01:47:59,200
they're trying to invoke pan this is not

2455
01:48:06,810 --> 01:48:03,370
something you do you know in the hem of

2456
01:48:09,690 --> 01:48:06,820
pan this is not like Wicca I know plenty

2457
01:48:13,230 --> 01:48:09,700
of Wiccans I know a few witches great

2458
01:48:15,510 --> 01:48:13,240
people but this is not it so why why

2459
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:15,520
then why did Terry risk choose them

2460
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:18,930
right that I still cannot fathom the

2461
01:48:25,500 --> 01:48:21,850
second thing is why Hellyer you could do

2462
01:48:27,780 --> 01:48:25,510
this anywhere but why Hellyer exact

2463
01:48:30,450 --> 01:48:27,790
obviously yeah there's the goblin thing

2464
01:48:32,490 --> 01:48:30,460
from the 50s the goblin thing happened

2465
01:48:34,890 --> 01:48:32,500
in the 50s it didn't happen like in the

2466
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:34,900
90s right it happened in like the 50s I

2467
01:48:44,630 --> 01:48:37,330
mean they just did it on on Project Blue

2468
01:48:47,220 --> 01:48:44,640
Book right right yeah so why Hellyer

2469
01:48:49,350 --> 01:48:47,230
well if you look at how your fill a lot

2470
01:48:52,350 --> 01:48:49,360
of reasons it actually makes a lot of

2471
01:48:54,510 --> 01:48:52,360
sense number one held Hellyer itself in

2472
01:48:56,850 --> 01:48:54,520
the location of the mind where they are

2473
01:49:00,840 --> 01:48:56,860
the tunnel where they keep going is near

2474
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:00,850
a fault line and and I in the article I

2475
01:49:05,790 --> 01:49:03,760
actually put a link to add up to a kind

2476
01:49:08,250 --> 01:49:05,800
of study that this guy did not an

2477
01:49:10,380 --> 01:49:08,260
in-depth one kind of a fast one but he

2478
01:49:12,860 --> 01:49:10,390
says point blank you know that there

2479
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:12,870
there is more paranormal activity around

2480
01:49:18,630 --> 01:49:15,610
fault lines and fault lines generated a

2481
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:18,640
tremendous amount of energy the second

2482
01:49:26,010 --> 01:49:22,650
thing is that the that Hellyer has a

2483
01:49:29,010 --> 01:49:26,020
conduit of placer like material that

2484
01:49:30,330 --> 01:49:29,020
came from a from a glacier that runs

2485
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:30,340
pretty much from Hellyer to Point

2486
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:32,770
Pleasant it's and when you talk about

2487
01:49:36,180 --> 01:49:34,000
placer material you're talking about

2488
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:36,190
like quartz veins so a lot of quartz

2489
01:49:40,410 --> 01:49:38,770
crystal that kind of crystal and it's

2490
01:49:42,930 --> 01:49:40,420
pretty much a conduit that runs directly

2491
01:49:46,230 --> 01:49:42,940
from Hellyer to Point Pleasant

2492
01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:46,240
the Mothman was okay the other thing is

2493
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:49,330
that the the entire plateau that they're

2494
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:52,000
sitting on Hellyer included the whole

2495
01:49:58,380 --> 01:49:56,560
thing is is zinc nitrate there's a layer

2496
01:50:01,200 --> 01:49:58,390
of zinc nitrate that permeates that

2497
01:50:05,220 --> 01:50:01,210
entire area and the zinc nitrate is is

2498
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:05,230
very tiny zinc crystals so the whole

2499
01:50:10,620 --> 01:50:07,690
thing is peppered with crystals small

2500
01:50:12,420 --> 01:50:10,630
ones but there's just an enormous amount

2501
01:50:14,490 --> 01:50:12,430
of them covering the entire thing it's

2502
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:14,500
also sitting on a limestone plateau and

2503
01:50:19,140 --> 01:50:16,930
there's an indication that lines and

2504
01:50:22,530 --> 01:50:19,150
seems to be some sort of a paranormal

2505
01:50:25,500 --> 01:50:22,540
conduit so if you look at if you look at

2506
01:50:27,410 --> 01:50:25,510
where Hellyer is the location of it it

2507
01:50:30,330 --> 01:50:27,420
looks like it's a huge energy amplifier

2508
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:30,340
if you look at it from an occultist or

2509
01:50:34,110 --> 01:50:32,170
you know kind of paranormal point of

2510
01:50:36,180 --> 01:50:34,120
view that he'll you're itself is sitting

2511
01:50:38,460 --> 01:50:36,190
is sitting on what what is probably a

2512
01:50:40,980 --> 01:50:38,470
huge amplifier right so you've got these

2513
01:50:43,050 --> 01:50:40,990
aquifers right for millions of years

2514
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:43,060
running beneath are three these or

2515
01:50:47,670 --> 01:50:45,010
limestone areas and then you have all

2516
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:47,680
great core crystals which you know few

2517
01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:51,010
are or we are many like these little

2518
01:50:55,380 --> 01:50:52,690
tiny ones but all together is kind of

2519
01:50:57,060 --> 01:50:55,390
like this amplification device is this

2520
01:50:59,700 --> 01:50:57,070
vibration and frequency from these

2521
01:51:03,330 --> 01:50:59,710
aquifers running with this water I don't

2522
01:51:05,130 --> 01:51:03,340
know my battery and so so what you're

2523
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:05,140
looking at is kind of a prime spot for

2524
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:07,570
an amplifier so whatever they're doing

2525
01:51:11,030 --> 01:51:09,370
and I have my own theories about what's

2526
01:51:14,370 --> 01:51:11,040
going on but whatever they're doing

2527
01:51:16,530 --> 01:51:14,380
right it's being amplified so that's why

2528
01:51:18,660 --> 01:51:16,540
Hellyer and then the third question that

2529
01:51:21,330 --> 01:51:18,670
comes to you inevitably is what are they

2530
01:51:25,950 --> 01:51:21,340
doing right what's the point of all this

2531
01:51:29,070 --> 01:51:25,960
right because Terry wrist is obviously

2532
01:51:32,490 --> 01:51:29,080
taking them on a on a well I'd say a

2533
01:51:34,170 --> 01:51:32,500
mine F word but he's taking them on he's

2534
01:51:39,060 --> 01:51:34,180
taking them on a trip you can cuss on

2535
01:51:41,130 --> 01:51:39,070
this podcast is obviously engaging in

2536
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:41,140
some level of a mindfuck here yeah yeah

2537
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:43,690
and and it's a mindfuck designed to keep

2538
01:51:46,530 --> 01:51:45,010
them interested and keep them moving

2539
01:51:48,540 --> 01:51:46,540
forward I'm not saying any of it is

2540
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:48,550
negative I'm just saying that there's

2541
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:51,070
there's an ulterior motive here and I

2542
01:51:56,689 --> 01:51:52,810
think that wrist is attempting to get

2543
01:51:59,069 --> 01:51:56,699
them to carry out a series of route

2544
01:52:01,620 --> 01:51:59,079
which they may do right they made you

2545
01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:01,630
wrong but a series of rituals that

2546
01:52:10,350 --> 01:52:06,249
culminate in an event and when you watch

2547
01:52:14,069 --> 01:52:10,360
it you become entangled in the event if

2548
01:52:17,149 --> 01:52:14,079
you want to in and that's what they they

2549
01:52:19,410 --> 01:52:17,159
showed in the in the video was like or

2550
01:52:22,319 --> 01:52:19,420
through one of their experiments they

2551
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:22,329
said just by showing people this what

2552
01:52:27,540 --> 01:52:24,489
you're watching is amplifying this whole

2553
01:52:31,229 --> 01:52:27,550
experience yes and and only if you

2554
01:52:33,029 --> 01:52:31,239
wanted to though okay if you don't if

2555
01:52:34,949 --> 01:52:33,039
you're close to it you just want to

2556
01:52:36,870 --> 01:52:34,959
watch it on TV that's okay too

2557
01:52:39,660 --> 01:52:36,880
but if you're open to it you become a

2558
01:52:43,500 --> 01:52:39,670
part of it yeah that's what happened to

2559
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:43,510
me but I think that what because they

2560
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:45,610
keep talking about gateways these little

2561
01:52:49,830 --> 01:52:47,530
goblins are the gateway keepers and all

2562
01:52:51,299 --> 01:52:49,840
the protectors and all his crap I think

2563
01:52:54,799 --> 01:52:51,309
what you're actually what they're

2564
01:52:58,350 --> 01:52:54,809
actually doing is that back in the 50s

2565
01:53:02,069 --> 01:52:58,360
Jack Parsons in l ron hubbard in the

2566
01:53:05,759 --> 01:53:02,079
desert and they they did the single

2567
01:53:10,049 --> 01:53:05,769
about alone working where where persons

2568
01:53:12,689 --> 01:53:10,059
attempt to energy they called a level on

2569
01:53:15,930 --> 01:53:12,699
down and into this woman to impregnate

2570
01:53:18,330 --> 01:53:15,940
her well he failed he opened the portal

2571
01:53:20,459 --> 01:53:18,340
but he failed and eventually the woman

2572
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:20,469
and l ron hubbard stole all his money

2573
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:27,489
and took off people's money and after

2574
01:53:32,250 --> 01:53:30,010
that you know crowley crowley basically

2575
01:53:33,839 --> 01:53:32,260
disowned jack persons who you know he

2576
01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:33,849
and he had this love affair with Jack

2577
01:53:38,219 --> 01:53:36,130
persons well after that Crowley said

2578
01:53:41,609 --> 01:53:38,229
that he was he was an idiot basically

2579
01:53:45,719 --> 01:53:41,619
and and I think that the culmination of

2580
01:53:48,449 --> 01:53:45,729
this is to close that portal oh oh okay

2581
01:53:50,459 --> 01:53:48,459
whoa yeah interesting so this is this is

2582
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,469
because Terry wrists terry wrists would

2583
01:53:53,790 --> 01:53:52,239
know this because he's in a culprit

2584
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:53,800
amongst other things

2585
01:53:57,239 --> 01:53:55,449
Terry wrist is in a cult at sea

2586
01:53:57,839 --> 01:53:57,249
greenfield the reason the book is

2587
01:53:59,759 --> 01:53:57,849
heavily used

2588
01:54:02,640 --> 01:53:59,769
besides the secret cipher which is its

2589
01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:02,650
own its own fascinating seem to deal

2590
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:07,360
with Greenfield interviewed wrists right

2591
01:54:13,799 --> 01:54:09,489
so Greenfield knows wrists

2592
01:54:16,739 --> 01:54:13,809
ah okay so I think I remember greenfield

2593
01:54:18,899 --> 01:54:16,749
talking about he does in the movie does

2594
01:54:21,959 --> 01:54:18,909
he divulged that he actually personally

2595
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:21,969
yeah yeah he personally knew yeah yeah

2596
01:54:27,689 --> 01:54:24,880
personally he said they were there kind

2597
01:54:30,180 --> 01:54:27,699
of acquaintances yeah but he's met wrist

2598
01:54:32,069 --> 01:54:30,190
he interviewed wrist you know he's met

2599
01:54:35,879 --> 01:54:32,079
wrist a number of times he interviewed

2600
01:54:36,899 --> 01:54:35,889
wrist so ya know he he knows what he

2601
01:54:38,609 --> 01:54:36,909
looks like

2602
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:38,619
well he knew what he looked like back

2603
01:54:43,979 --> 01:54:41,440
then yeah yes while I'm thinking about

2604
01:54:46,109 --> 01:54:43,989
it I think you're our connection kind of

2605
01:54:48,779 --> 01:54:46,119
scrambled a little bit when you you're

2606
01:54:50,700 --> 01:54:48,789
explaining about what ceremony they were

2607
01:54:52,859 --> 01:54:50,710
doing something about impregnating that

2608
01:54:55,709 --> 01:54:52,869
was some kind of act Oh could you get

2609
01:54:57,689 --> 01:54:55,719
yeah so so Jack Parsons goes out in the

2610
01:54:59,879 --> 01:54:57,699
desert without ron Hubbard and the ideas

2611
01:55:02,759 --> 01:54:59,889
they open a portal and then they bring

2612
01:55:05,399 --> 01:55:02,769
down this feminine energy and impregnate

2613
01:55:07,580 --> 01:55:05,409
there was some sex magic impregnate this

2614
01:55:11,910 --> 01:55:07,590
woman I'm Cameron Bure name offhand but

2615
01:55:14,459 --> 01:55:11,920
they fate he failed he screwed it up and

2616
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:14,469
the portal may still be open

2617
01:55:23,729 --> 01:55:20,170
oh so that is that's the big event so

2618
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:23,739
he's waited all this time to now try to

2619
01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:26,170
close it and then well no it doesn't

2620
01:55:28,979 --> 01:55:26,800
work that way

2621
01:55:31,410 --> 01:55:28,989
so it's not that it's not the terrorists

2622
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:31,420
waited all this time is that what I

2623
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:33,130
believe is happening is that there's a

2624
01:55:37,850 --> 01:55:34,510
group called the secret chiefs of the

2625
01:55:41,189 --> 01:55:37,860
third order they're kind of like been f

2626
01:55:43,259 --> 01:55:41,199
beneficial spiritual enlightened beings

2627
01:55:45,890 --> 01:55:43,269
that set up in the ether space above our

2628
01:55:48,450 --> 01:55:45,900
head somewhere and then they they use

2629
01:55:50,129 --> 01:55:48,460
intermediaries to carry out things that

2630
01:55:53,189 --> 01:55:50,139
need to be done and I think that wrist

2631
01:55:55,140 --> 01:55:53,199
is the intermediary to the secret routes

2632
01:55:58,229 --> 01:55:55,150
of the third order and they're telling

2633
01:56:00,089 --> 01:55:58,239
rest okay wrist go get these people over

2634
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:00,099
here to do this thing and so that's what

2635
01:56:07,950 --> 01:56:04,210
he's doing he's executing their will do

2636
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:07,960
and then just trust me trust me the

2637
01:56:12,390 --> 01:56:09,130
secret chiefs of the third order

2638
01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:12,400
absolutely exist I can tell you

2639
01:56:19,649 --> 01:56:14,800
unequivocally they are real really that

2640
01:56:26,109 --> 01:56:23,830
absolutely 100% real and obvious I don't

2641
01:56:29,379 --> 01:56:26,119
mean to poke and pry but are these

2642
01:56:30,489 --> 01:56:29,389
cities these physical beings are they no

2643
01:56:38,020 --> 01:56:30,499
okay

2644
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:38,030
they became enlightened illuminated they

2645
01:56:44,020 --> 01:56:40,130
you know they're there now spiritual

2646
01:56:47,020 --> 01:56:44,030
Dean's Wow I love this I love this stuff

2647
01:56:48,939 --> 01:56:47,030
man I'm so interested I did a whole

2648
01:56:52,449 --> 01:56:48,949
podcast I did a whole podcast on what

2649
01:56:57,159 --> 01:56:52,459
happened to me oh man I mean what

2650
01:56:59,799 --> 01:56:57,169
podcast is the paranoia podcast okay

2651
01:57:02,229 --> 01:56:59,809
yeah Wow and I interview Greenfield

2652
01:57:06,370 --> 01:57:02,239
about it in fact you should you should

2653
01:57:08,379 --> 01:57:06,380
probably talk to green fuel I loved both

2654
01:57:10,089 --> 01:57:08,389
of you guys I'd love to just listen to

2655
01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:10,099
y'all's conversation we don't even have

2656
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:14,090
to well I'll give you a great example of

2657
01:57:17,799 --> 01:57:16,159
how it works not the big event that

2658
01:57:20,529 --> 01:57:17,809
happened to me but it airs a little one

2659
01:57:23,739 --> 01:57:20,539
so I you know I have a friend and and we

2660
01:57:26,109 --> 01:57:23,749
were we were you know going on an

2661
01:57:27,609 --> 01:57:26,119
adventure you know we try to go to

2662
01:57:30,339 --> 01:57:27,619
interesting places and see interesting

2663
01:57:32,379 --> 01:57:30,349
things and and do interesting stuff and

2664
01:57:35,169 --> 01:57:32,389
inevitably when you're adventuring you

2665
01:57:37,899 --> 01:57:35,179
stay in hotels right and right I was so

2666
01:57:40,719 --> 01:57:37,909
I go we're doing something ugly so I go

2667
01:57:42,429 --> 01:57:40,729
check in the hotel and when I checked

2668
01:57:44,729 --> 01:57:42,439
into the hotel because we were both

2669
01:57:47,649 --> 01:57:44,739
going to be there that's how this works

2670
01:57:56,890 --> 01:57:47,659
the the room number that I caught was

2671
01:57:59,500 --> 01:57:56,900
three three three yeah that's this one

2672
01:58:00,909 --> 01:57:59,510
example Wow so you think you've

2673
01:58:02,649 --> 01:58:00,919
experienced the same kind of

2674
01:58:04,239 --> 01:58:02,659
synchronicities that were kind of

2675
01:58:06,129 --> 01:58:04,249
displayed in this Hellyer stuff that's

2676
01:58:09,429 --> 01:58:06,139
kind of like just the tip of the write

2677
01:58:11,739 --> 01:58:09,439
like oh yeah I've had very similar

2678
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:11,749
things happened to me they were they're

2679
01:58:16,959 --> 01:58:13,610
different because my path is different

2680
01:58:20,489 --> 01:58:16,969
yeah but I definitely had absolutely had

2681
01:58:23,799 --> 01:58:20,499
a bunch of really crazy crazy crazy

2682
01:58:25,839 --> 01:58:23,809
synchronicities yeah so oh man I'm so

2683
01:58:28,509 --> 01:58:25,849
interested in this III want to just kind

2684
01:58:29,979 --> 01:58:28,519
of ask you in in Hellyer there's this

2685
01:58:31,720 --> 01:58:29,989
synchronicity with the balloon

2686
01:58:34,330 --> 01:58:31,730
thing is there any significance that you

2687
01:58:36,459 --> 01:58:34,340
can speak of that that ok so you've

2688
01:58:38,259 --> 01:58:36,469
heard this before is that a totally new

2689
01:58:39,989 --> 01:58:38,269
thing because I'm conflicted about it

2690
01:58:43,359 --> 01:58:39,999
because it's something won't be easily

2691
01:58:46,029 --> 01:58:43,369
replicated when the balloon the balloon

2692
01:58:48,580 --> 01:58:46,039
is a message it's not a thing in and of

2693
01:58:50,410 --> 01:58:48,590
itself it's a message okay you know and

2694
01:58:53,080 --> 01:58:50,420
I think they correctly interpreted the

2695
01:58:56,739 --> 01:58:53,090
balloon is the blue sapphire yes it was

2696
01:59:00,489 --> 01:58:56,749
like a five story five sided blue

2697
01:59:02,259 --> 01:59:00,499
sapphire star yeah in my case I seem to

2698
01:59:04,660 --> 01:59:02,269
have an attraction to emeralds that

2699
01:59:06,850 --> 01:59:04,670
emeralds are pervasive Green and

2700
01:59:09,129 --> 01:59:06,860
emeralds are pervasive in my life for

2701
01:59:11,229 --> 01:59:09,139
some reason right and I think I I think

2702
01:59:14,379 --> 01:59:11,239
I I think I figured it out

2703
01:59:17,350 --> 01:59:14,389
but we shall see but in the case of the

2704
01:59:21,069 --> 01:59:17,360
in the case of the blue the blue star

2705
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:21,079
sapphire yeah I mean it's a symbol I've

2706
01:59:26,739 --> 01:59:23,210
never known any well I've never seen

2707
01:59:29,350 --> 01:59:26,749
that before but you know they wanted to

2708
01:59:31,689 --> 01:59:29,360
the secret Chiefs wanted to send them a

2709
01:59:33,459 --> 01:59:31,699
message and so you know Terry wrist

2710
01:59:35,259 --> 01:59:33,469
didn't do that the secret Chiefs did and

2711
01:59:38,739 --> 01:59:35,269
the secret Chiefs one wanted them to do

2712
01:59:42,339 --> 01:59:38,749
it so they sent them a blue star balloon

2713
01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:42,349
and in my case you know I went to so

2714
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:46,639
stupid I went to to a Cub Scout thing

2715
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:50,719
and you know that and what do I see

2716
02:00:03,549 --> 02:00:02,259
Cub Scouts are dope like I wish I did I

2717
02:00:04,890 --> 02:00:03,559
wish I would have been able to like get

2718
02:00:07,330 --> 02:00:04,900
back in there

2719
02:00:11,830 --> 02:00:07,340
oh yeah that sounds like it's so much

2720
02:00:15,129 --> 02:00:11,840
fun is this so is this something like

2721
02:00:16,330 --> 02:00:15,139
that you have to be into in order for it

2722
02:00:18,819 --> 02:00:16,340
to happen to you or is this something

2723
02:00:21,850 --> 02:00:18,829
that can just happen to you and you have

2724
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:21,860
to be open right right so I mean you

2725
02:00:28,180 --> 02:00:24,320
could you could maybe just one day start

2726
02:00:30,189 --> 02:00:28,190
noticing things and and then just kind

2727
02:00:35,799 --> 02:00:30,199
of dive into it and then baller you know

2728
02:00:38,589 --> 02:00:35,809
example I have a friend on Facebook she

2729
02:00:40,569 --> 02:00:38,599
is very interested in this stuff and she

2730
02:00:43,390 --> 02:00:40,579
was saying why can't this stuff happen

2731
02:00:45,940 --> 02:00:43,400
to me yeah and I said

2732
02:00:48,010 --> 02:00:45,950
well you just have to have to let the

2733
02:00:52,930 --> 02:00:48,020
let the powers-that-be know you want it

2734
02:00:55,270 --> 02:00:52,940
mm-hmm and so she you know she early she

2735
02:00:59,410 --> 02:00:55,280
went outside one night said hey secret

2736
02:01:03,040 --> 02:00:59,420
Chiefs send me a message and it's been

2737
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:03,050
non-stop ever since yeah

2738
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:05,690
so I'm curious what your thought is I'm

2739
02:01:10,390 --> 02:01:07,490
just kind of like going through this

2740
02:01:12,430 --> 02:01:10,400
kind of cognitive change of the era I

2741
02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:12,440
think me a Joe or at the same level but

2742
02:01:18,190 --> 02:01:15,110
we're we're seeing this connection

2743
02:01:21,700 --> 02:01:18,200
between the your intent with yes whether

2744
02:01:24,700 --> 02:01:21,710
it be UFOs aliens ghosts the occults or

2745
02:01:27,340 --> 02:01:24,710
mysticism there's this one binding

2746
02:01:29,860 --> 02:01:27,350
factor that connects all of these frames

2747
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:29,870
of it's okay yeah I think that's like

2748
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:32,810
the the language or the blood of of this

2749
02:01:38,490 --> 02:01:36,170
like it is it's the intent and and one

2750
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:38,500
of the things that you see I started I

2751
02:01:45,340 --> 02:01:42,800
had approached Greenfield years ago and

2752
02:01:48,010 --> 02:01:45,350
started reprinting his book and at that

2753
02:01:50,140 --> 02:01:48,020
time very few people bought it it's a

2754
02:01:52,330 --> 02:01:50,150
it's from the 90s it's a very arcane

2755
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:52,340
book you know you had to kind of

2756
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:54,050
understand because it's a mixture of

2757
02:01:59,260 --> 02:01:57,050
occultism and ufology you have to kind

2758
02:02:01,030 --> 02:01:59,270
of understand what you're reading a

2759
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:01,040
little bit right now or at least be

2760
02:02:05,980 --> 02:02:03,050
opening it's asking questions and other

2761
02:02:07,540 --> 02:02:05,990
stuff and you know very few people

2762
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:07,550
bought it and then one day you know

2763
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:09,050
suddenly a bunch of people started

2764
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:12,050
buying it what the hell you know and

2765
02:02:16,270 --> 02:02:14,690
then and I had resisted watching Hellyer

2766
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:16,280
for years because I thought it was about

2767
02:02:26,740 --> 02:02:24,770
Paul Hellyer whatever and my friend my

2768
02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:26,750
friend named Taylor he finally convinced

2769
02:02:31,450 --> 02:02:28,130
he's like no dude you gotta watch this

2770
02:02:34,660 --> 02:02:31,460
and within 10 minutes of watching it the

2771
02:02:37,150 --> 02:02:34,670
synchronous that he started yeah because

2772
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:37,160
I mix inexorably bound to because I

2773
02:02:42,010 --> 02:02:40,010
published the book but one of the

2774
02:02:43,780 --> 02:02:42,020
reasons that I had gone to Greenfield

2775
02:02:47,290 --> 02:02:43,790
and asked for his permission to publish

2776
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:47,300
the book Repub reprinted the guy who

2777
02:02:50,890 --> 02:02:48,890
originally printed it was a guy named

2778
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:50,900
Ron bonds and he had a thing called

2779
02:02:55,560 --> 02:02:53,930
alumina press well Ron bonds went to a

2780
02:02:58,649 --> 02:02:55,570
Mexican restaurant ad

2781
02:03:02,100 --> 02:02:58,659
had a bad bad meal and was dead 24 hours

2782
02:03:04,379 --> 02:03:02,110
later right yeah and he published Jim

2783
02:03:07,020 --> 02:03:04,389
Keith and a bunch of people and he was a

2784
02:03:08,850 --> 02:03:07,030
big conspiracy book publisher and so you

2785
02:03:13,229 --> 02:03:08,860
know everybody's like oh um bonds got

2786
02:03:15,209 --> 02:03:13,239
taken out well you know I I not to deter

2787
02:03:16,500 --> 02:03:15,219
me of course I'm like well Allen I want

2788
02:03:20,399 --> 02:03:16,510
to publish this book and one of the

2789
02:03:21,810 --> 02:03:20,409
reasons why is because he talks a lot

2790
02:03:25,580 --> 02:03:21,820
about the notion of the ultra

2791
02:03:29,220 --> 02:03:25,590
terrestrial but these I'd this idea that

2792
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:29,230
ghosts and UFOs and Bigfoot you know all

2793
02:03:32,700 --> 02:03:30,730
these fortune things they're all

2794
02:03:37,919 --> 02:03:32,710
disparate and it's not true they're all

2795
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:37,929
connected in fact the the secret cipher

2796
02:03:43,950 --> 02:03:40,690
itself is a is a thalamic thing that it

2797
02:03:46,680 --> 02:03:43,960
uses the book of law from Crowley and it

2798
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:46,690
it does a it does like like a it's like

2799
02:03:50,700 --> 02:03:48,730
a substitution cipher that did each

2800
02:03:52,140 --> 02:03:50,710
letter has a different number and then

2801
02:03:53,839 --> 02:03:52,150
you add the numbers up and it gives you

2802
02:03:56,879 --> 02:03:53,849
an outcome and then you find other words

2803
02:03:58,529 --> 02:03:56,889
that have the same numeric value and

2804
02:04:02,819 --> 02:03:58,539
then those words should give you a

2805
02:04:04,680 --> 02:04:02,829
message or an intention and intent great

2806
02:04:06,810 --> 02:04:04,690
and and so you know it works because

2807
02:04:08,640 --> 02:04:06,820
everything is interlinked it's not like

2808
02:04:09,899 --> 02:04:08,650
you just have UFOs or you just have

2809
02:04:12,569 --> 02:04:09,909
ghosts poltergeists

2810
02:04:15,209 --> 02:04:12,579
you know there's super Carberry it's all

2811
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:15,219
mixed together it's all one anomalous

2812
02:04:20,759 --> 02:04:17,050
thing and there's somehow tied together

2813
02:04:23,970 --> 02:04:20,769
right so I love that idea and I really

2814
02:04:25,859 --> 02:04:23,980
buy into it so you know at least for the

2815
02:04:28,319 --> 02:04:25,869
stuff that's not man-made or human-made

2816
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:28,329
right so I was like I want to print this

2817
02:04:37,049 --> 02:04:30,610
because I want people to have an option

2818
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:37,059
that is in ancient aliens - well David

2819
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:38,530
Hatcher Childress is a beautiful

2820
02:04:43,529 --> 02:04:40,690
wonderful guy and he actually publishes

2821
02:04:45,899 --> 02:04:43,539
the secret space agent on Adventures

2822
02:04:47,669 --> 02:04:45,909
unlimited I'm a huge fan I've got all of

2823
02:04:49,529 --> 02:04:47,679
his books I'm not lovely got a dad

2824
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:49,539
yeah always a great guy and a nice dude

2825
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:51,610
if you ever may know it wonderful dude

2826
02:04:56,399 --> 02:04:54,730
no funny way yeah but you know I wanted

2827
02:04:58,379 --> 02:04:56,409
people to have an alternative that's a

2828
02:04:59,129 --> 02:04:58,389
different view that maybe they're not

2829
02:05:01,379 --> 02:04:59,139
aliens

2830
02:05:02,729 --> 02:05:01,389
yeah maybe they're all their ultra

2831
02:05:06,299 --> 02:05:02,739
terrestrial beings from another

2832
02:05:07,919 --> 02:05:06,309
dimension or whatever so I really wanted

2833
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:07,929
to publish it and low and behold I don't

2834
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:08,490
know

2835
02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:10,770
five years well more than four five five

2836
02:05:15,220 --> 02:05:12,930
or six years later it gets put on this

2837
02:05:19,340 --> 02:05:15,230
you know documentary TV show and then

2838
02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:19,350
now my life is crazy yeah yeah man I

2839
02:05:25,970 --> 02:05:22,770
just man I just love the the thought of

2840
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:25,980
that you know I think a lot of our

2841
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:29,130
culture today kind of makes us believe

2842
02:05:34,550 --> 02:05:32,130
that we're powerless and and all this

2843
02:05:36,440 --> 02:05:34,560
stuff that we're into my design and I

2844
02:05:39,590 --> 02:05:36,450
feel like it's just it makes me feel

2845
02:05:42,500 --> 02:05:39,600
like man we're so much more capable yeah

2846
02:05:43,820 --> 02:05:42,510
how not not that we are yeah well it's

2847
02:05:45,740 --> 02:05:43,830
not that we're making this up in our

2848
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:45,750
mind but it's just that certain people

2849
02:05:50,570 --> 02:05:47,850
are sensitive and are open to certain

2850
02:05:53,510 --> 02:05:50,580
things or able to access magic really if

2851
02:05:56,570 --> 02:05:53,520
you think you know right you know but I

2852
02:05:59,720 --> 02:05:56,580
call it I call it occult Sciences or

2853
02:06:01,610 --> 02:05:59,730
cold engineering I don't I'm not I'm not

2854
02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:01,620
a fella my I don't

2855
02:06:10,910 --> 02:06:05,010
that's not my religion right and I I

2856
02:06:13,370 --> 02:06:10,920
don't you know I'm an Episcopalian yeah

2857
02:06:14,900 --> 02:06:13,380
I don't I don't see and that's one of

2858
02:06:16,610 --> 02:06:14,910
the struggles that the one guy housed in

2859
02:06:18,530 --> 02:06:16,620
the shows that I believe he's Catholic

2860
02:06:20,060 --> 02:06:18,540
and he's right you know he's having this

2861
02:06:21,890 --> 02:06:20,070
struggle because these are culty things

2862
02:06:23,450 --> 02:06:21,900
are happening I think it's a I think

2863
02:06:26,270 --> 02:06:23,460
it's a science we don't understand

2864
02:06:28,340 --> 02:06:26,280
having to do with the ether and one of

2865
02:06:30,590 --> 02:06:28,350
the things you know Crowley Crowley was

2866
02:06:33,740 --> 02:06:30,600
a lot of things you know good and bad

2867
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:33,750
but one of the things that Crowley would

2868
02:06:39,410 --> 02:06:36,930
say is that you know the powers within

2869
02:06:43,160 --> 02:06:39,420
you to do this stuff it's not you know

2870
02:06:45,530 --> 02:06:43,170
you're you have the power to be able to

2871
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:45,540
manifest things and to do things and to

2872
02:06:50,060 --> 02:06:48,450
manipulate time and space and all these

2873
02:06:52,880 --> 02:06:50,070
things you have the power within you to

2874
02:06:55,310 --> 02:06:52,890
do it and you know you can take what

2875
02:06:58,340 --> 02:06:55,320
Crowley is written again I'm not I don't

2876
02:07:00,710 --> 02:06:58,350
belong to the OTO I'm not a film I but

2877
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:00,720
you know there's good and bad in there

2878
02:07:08,930 --> 02:07:02,250
right I mean he did call himself the

2879
02:07:10,610 --> 02:07:08,940
Antichrist no but that aside I mean

2880
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:10,620
there are things that are interesting

2881
02:07:17,450 --> 02:07:13,650
and and there you know there is a kind

2882
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:17,460
of idea that you have the capability to

2883
02:07:22,260 --> 02:07:19,570
do whatever you want to do

2884
02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:22,270
and I think that's that's an interesting

2885
02:07:26,550 --> 02:07:25,330
thing and you know I think that's

2886
02:07:29,820 --> 02:07:26,560
something that we should all buy into

2887
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:29,830
yeah I want to look more into the the

2888
02:07:33,810 --> 02:07:31,810
statement of Antichrist because you can

2889
02:07:36,930 --> 02:07:33,820
take it either like a really negative

2890
02:07:38,220 --> 02:07:36,940
way or I mean I'm sure there's multiple

2891
02:07:40,470 --> 02:07:38,230
different angles you can look at that

2892
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:40,480
right right but it makes me only want to

2893
02:07:45,570 --> 02:07:42,850
research him even more Aleister Crowley

2894
02:07:48,540 --> 02:07:45,580
so oh yeah you know if you want an

2895
02:07:50,430 --> 02:07:48,550
interesting view of the Antichrist and

2896
02:07:53,490 --> 02:07:50,440
you're a fan of Ground Zero you should

2897
02:07:56,850 --> 02:07:53,500
look up the ACDC god if you have if you

2898
02:07:59,130 --> 02:07:56,860
have the paranoia channel on on your

2899
02:08:01,200 --> 02:07:59,140
Roku yeah yeah we can actually yeah you

2900
02:08:02,910 --> 02:08:01,210
can actually find a thing on there it's

2901
02:08:05,730 --> 02:08:02,920
called the ac/dc god at some of the

2902
02:08:09,180 --> 02:08:05,740
Ground Zero videos and it's Clyde's

2903
02:08:11,490 --> 02:08:09,190
presentation on on the the Antichrist

2904
02:08:15,950 --> 02:08:11,500
which he believes is Prince William cool

2905
02:08:20,070 --> 02:08:18,750
yeah yeah I'm definitely gonna check

2906
02:08:22,050 --> 02:08:20,080
that out because I saw it scrolling

2907
02:08:25,980 --> 02:08:22,060
through I was like we're gonna have to

2908
02:08:28,170 --> 02:08:25,990
get on this sure so yeah gonna be binge

2909
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:28,180
watching a lot of stuff yeah I've got a

2910
02:08:33,770 --> 02:08:31,110
lot I've got a lot of homework now

2911
02:08:40,110 --> 02:08:33,780
you've given my my next month of

2912
02:08:41,910 --> 02:08:40,120
research my friend it's and it's it's a

2913
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:41,920
growth thing that it's it's not

2914
02:08:46,260 --> 02:08:44,770
something you figure out overnight it

2915
02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:46,270
just kind of kind of comes to you you

2916
02:08:51,270 --> 02:08:48,490
know I'd spent years and years and years

2917
02:08:54,510 --> 02:08:51,280
reading this stuff and I never really

2918
02:08:56,220 --> 02:08:54,520
did anything about it and one day you

2919
02:08:58,980 --> 02:08:56,230
know before I watch tell you're actually

2920
02:09:00,500 --> 02:08:58,990
one day a friend of mine needed some

2921
02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:00,510
help

2922
02:09:05,730 --> 02:09:03,760
cleansing their house and I was like

2923
02:09:07,260 --> 02:09:05,740
okay I know how to do this so I went and

2924
02:09:10,530 --> 02:09:07,270
helped through cleanse that the house

2925
02:09:13,710 --> 02:09:10,540
and then I watched Tellier and then it

2926
02:09:16,590 --> 02:09:13,720
all came unglued whoa you know and and

2927
02:09:18,330 --> 02:09:16,600
for example I had a friend a same friend

2928
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:18,340
whose house I clones you know we're

2929
02:09:23,310 --> 02:09:21,010
having lunch and I had told her that I

2930
02:09:25,460 --> 02:09:23,320
was just sitting outside looking up at

2931
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:25,470
the sky like I'm doing right now and

2932
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:28,090
three stars formed the equilateral

2933
02:09:32,460 --> 02:09:30,490
triangle and it became very obvious to

2934
02:09:33,270 --> 02:09:32,470
me those stars and it shouldn't have but

2935
02:09:36,210 --> 02:09:33,280
they were

2936
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:36,220
yeah Wow and yeah and and then she had

2937
02:09:41,130 --> 02:09:38,170
this suddenly into her she's empathic

2938
02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:41,140
and suddenly this symbol of a triangle

2939
02:09:48,390 --> 02:09:43,690
with swirly lines suddenly just popped

2940
02:09:51,510 --> 02:09:48,400
into her head whoa cool right you know

2941
02:09:54,060 --> 02:09:51,520
and then then I had you know had a

2942
02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:54,070
somewhat mystical experience and I the

2943
02:09:58,950 --> 02:09:56,110
next day I went to Half Price Books of

2944
02:10:02,550 --> 02:09:58,960
all the mundane things to do I went to

2945
02:10:04,650 --> 02:10:02,560
Half Price Books and I was in the I was

2946
02:10:06,650 --> 02:10:04,660
in the real book section one like rare

2947
02:10:10,340 --> 02:10:06,660
books at Half Price Books okay whatever

2948
02:10:13,620 --> 02:10:10,350
well they had this like old copy of

2949
02:10:15,300 --> 02:10:13,630
practical magic in theory by Crowley and

2950
02:10:17,580 --> 02:10:15,310
I felt compelled to buy it for some

2951
02:10:20,610 --> 02:10:17,590
reason there's some odd synchronicities

2952
02:10:23,130 --> 02:10:20,620
that within the book just a book without

2953
02:10:24,900 --> 02:10:23,140
opening the book of why I felt super

2954
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:24,910
compelled to buy it it's a long story

2955
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:27,850
I'll just bore you to death but I I

2956
02:10:31,740 --> 02:10:29,770
called Green Cross said hey you know I

2957
02:10:33,420 --> 02:10:31,750
was just compelled because I always

2958
02:10:35,820 --> 02:10:33,430
asked Allen when some of these things

2959
02:10:38,040 --> 02:10:35,830
happen because I need some clarity

2960
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:38,050
because I don't necessarily understand

2961
02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:41,050
the meanings and and he said well

2962
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:44,530
obviously they super Chiefs wanted you

2963
02:10:52,470 --> 02:10:48,810
to read the book so read the book and

2964
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:52,480
something will pop out at you yeah right

2965
02:10:56,970 --> 02:10:54,880
yeah and so I start reading the book I'm

2966
02:10:59,760 --> 02:10:56,980
in the first or the second damn chapter

2967
02:11:03,570 --> 02:10:59,770
and and this thing pops out at me in it

2968
02:11:05,850 --> 02:11:03,580
and it's it's like if you want to if you

2969
02:11:07,530 --> 02:11:05,860
want to summon a god you make a circle

2970
02:11:10,170 --> 02:11:07,540
if you want to summon a spirit you make

2971
02:11:13,700 --> 02:11:10,180
a triangle and here I have this whole

2972
02:11:16,650 --> 02:11:13,710
like synchronicity of triangles yes

2973
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:16,660
that's fine and in this crazy

2974
02:11:21,300 --> 02:11:19,210
synchronicity about emeralds and that

2975
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:21,310
there's some I can't get into it but

2976
02:11:26,670 --> 02:11:24,880
there there's a reason why so is that

2977
02:11:28,740 --> 02:11:26,680
way have to do with light refraction and

2978
02:11:30,930 --> 02:11:28,750
like the shape of the triangle making it

2979
02:11:36,090 --> 02:11:30,940
green of some sort of just like greeting

2980
02:11:38,490 --> 02:11:36,100
as long as here it's it's there's

2981
02:11:41,420 --> 02:11:38,500
there's two reasons one one of which is

2982
02:11:44,970 --> 02:11:41,430
that the Emerald is invoking an emerald

2983
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:44,980
this used to ask for health and also

2984
02:11:49,020 --> 02:11:46,930
foresight yeah

2985
02:11:51,390 --> 02:11:49,030
you can use it to to try to scry the

2986
02:11:55,940 --> 02:11:51,400
future the other thing I can't tell you

2987
02:11:59,700 --> 02:11:55,950
about I'm sworn to secrecy unfortunately

2988
02:12:02,390 --> 02:11:59,710
dang it yep but suffice it to say

2989
02:12:07,440 --> 02:12:02,400
suffice it to say it's yet another

2990
02:12:09,330 --> 02:12:07,450
synchronicity yeah Wow yeah dude well

2991
02:12:12,510 --> 02:12:09,340
not a creepy one but a really crazy one

2992
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:12,520
yeah yeah that's awesome man oh well no

2993
02:12:17,220 --> 02:12:14,110
worries baby you gotta keep seeing any

2994
02:12:19,530 --> 02:12:17,230
words I understand this stuff has a lot

2995
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:19,540
of secrets to it so no worries no

2996
02:12:24,510 --> 02:12:21,370
worries on that man yeah don't worry

2997
02:12:27,540 --> 02:12:24,520
about it yeah that's great dude well man

2998
02:12:29,430 --> 02:12:27,550
I want to say thank you very much for uh

2999
02:12:31,710 --> 02:12:29,440
hopping on with us tonight and

3000
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:31,720
chit-chatting with us

3001
02:12:35,310 --> 02:12:33,850
we're definitely what I would definitely

3002
02:12:37,890 --> 02:12:35,320
would love to have you back on it yes

3003
02:12:40,110 --> 02:12:37,900
definitely anytime we can keep chitchat

3004
02:12:43,290 --> 02:12:40,120
man I could pick your brain for hours

3005
02:12:45,420 --> 02:12:43,300
you know what I'm saying yeah but yeah

3006
02:12:48,660 --> 02:12:45,430
man this has been absolutely awesome I'm

3007
02:12:51,690 --> 02:12:48,670
so glad that we were able to meet you a

3008
02:12:55,140 --> 02:12:51,700
big thing today for for introducing us

3009
02:12:57,240 --> 02:12:55,150
to you man oh yeah that's right they

3010
02:12:59,250 --> 02:12:57,250
start radio radio Dave Scott check it

3011
02:13:03,200 --> 02:12:59,260
out that's right Dave Dave

3012
02:13:05,220 --> 02:13:03,210
oddly dave is a part of it oh really oh

3013
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:05,230
okay so next time you're on the podcast

3014
02:13:16,740 --> 02:13:10,960
you have to tell that story this we

3015
02:13:19,170 --> 02:13:16,750
discussed it on his show alright man

3016
02:13:21,300 --> 02:13:19,180
well thank you again for spending your

3017
02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:21,310
time with us yeah our listeners are

3018
02:13:24,300 --> 02:13:22,960
totally gonna appreciate this man and

3019
02:13:27,270 --> 02:13:24,310
we're definitely gonna have you back on

3020
02:13:29,610 --> 02:13:27,280
again soon all right man sure alright

3021
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:29,620
brother yeah thank you very much yeah

3022
02:13:33,450 --> 02:13:32,170
thank you so much brother oh no problem

3023
02:13:35,550 --> 02:13:33,460
it was it was a pleasure and an honor

3024
02:13:38,070 --> 02:13:35,560
absolutely will you have a great night

3025
02:13:41,540 --> 02:13:38,080
alright dude you too all right man we'll

3026
02:13:42,780 --> 02:13:41,550
talk to you later brother okay all right

3027
02:13:44,420 --> 02:13:42,790
Aloha

3028
02:13:53,020 --> 02:13:44,430
[Laughter]

3029
02:13:55,430 --> 02:13:53,030
[Music]

3030
02:13:59,000 --> 02:13:55,440
dude dude

3031
02:14:01,670 --> 02:13:59,010
that was crazy my love yeah dude he was

3032
02:14:04,610 --> 02:14:01,680
an awesome guest man he was really

3033
02:14:06,110 --> 02:14:04,620
really awesome so many questions so

3034
02:14:09,590 --> 02:14:06,120
we're gonna have to get him back on and

3035
02:14:15,230 --> 02:14:09,600
I want to talk more about magic yeah I

3036
02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:15,240
like all the flying in the magic man

3037
02:14:20,630 --> 02:14:17,610
that was so good I'm glad I'm glad he

3038
02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:20,640
gave us some clarity on the secret space

3039
02:14:27,110 --> 02:14:23,970
program and I'm glad he gave us his

3040
02:14:29,510 --> 02:14:27,120
opinion on hillier yeah cuz you know we

3041
02:14:31,010 --> 02:14:29,520
were big fans on that but I mean yeah

3042
02:14:34,430 --> 02:14:31,020
the dude is awesome

3043
02:14:36,170 --> 02:14:34,440
yeah he's written a lot of stuff I mean

3044
02:14:37,970 --> 02:14:36,180
like I said he's he's a real

3045
02:14:40,580 --> 02:14:37,980
behind-the-scenes kind of guy but I mean

3046
02:14:44,570 --> 02:14:40,590
he he's like seems to like make a lot of

3047
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:44,580
[\h__\h] happen yeah and dude I mean I was

3048
02:14:48,860 --> 02:14:46,410
like talking to the source yeah yeah

3049
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:48,870
exactly how I felt exactly yeah he's

3050
02:14:53,590 --> 02:14:50,010
like yeah you guys should have

3051
02:14:56,120 --> 02:14:53,600
greenfield on your on your shows like ya

3052
02:14:59,000 --> 02:14:56,130
horse dude hell yeah that would be so

3053
02:15:02,060 --> 02:14:59,010
awesome man so I just yeah just kind of

3054
02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:02,070
like recap like secret space program a

3055
02:15:07,850 --> 02:15:04,890
little bit of magic some hell your stuff

3056
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:07,860
lots of Nazi some Nazi stuff with the

3057
02:15:13,130 --> 02:15:11,520
senior space program yeah man oh it's

3058
02:15:15,290 --> 02:15:13,140
just kind of like all swirling in my

3059
02:15:19,520 --> 02:15:15,300
head I know me too

3060
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:19,530
me too ah did so awesome I mean I'm sure

3061
02:15:25,610 --> 02:15:23,370
this guy's got a million stories yeah I

3062
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:25,620
mean if you're a writer you know you you

3063
02:15:31,340 --> 02:15:29,250
know I do it I mean yeah we got we gotta

3064
02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:31,350
get him back on absolutely sure gonna

3065
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:32,970
think of a lot of questions I should

3066
02:15:37,310 --> 02:15:35,370
have asked but I feel like we did pretty

3067
02:15:42,530 --> 02:15:37,320
good we did do pretty good yeah we did

3068
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:42,540
do pretty good yes I forgot I have

3069
02:15:53,090 --> 02:15:46,890
coronavirus oh yeah dude all right dude

3070
02:15:54,770 --> 02:15:53,100
it's okay not funny I mean dude you if

3071
02:15:58,700 --> 02:15:54,780
you if you have it you realize you only

3072
02:16:04,670 --> 02:15:58,710
have a 98% chance of living

3073
02:16:06,020 --> 02:16:04,680
[\h__\h] is it that low dude so you guys

3074
02:16:07,940 --> 02:16:06,030
might have noticed that we handed like a

3075
02:16:10,580 --> 02:16:07,950
different intro song I'm gonna give a

3076
02:16:12,310 --> 02:16:10,590
shout-out to Robbie yeah you guys will

3077
02:16:15,590 --> 02:16:12,320
probably hear a couple of different ones

3078
02:16:17,450 --> 02:16:15,600
kind of trying something new out so if

3079
02:16:19,910 --> 02:16:17,460
you like it change up the viola yeah

3080
02:16:22,190 --> 02:16:19,920
tell us whether or not you like it or if

3081
02:16:24,290 --> 02:16:22,200
you think it's crap then tell us crap

3082
02:16:27,830 --> 02:16:24,300
and we'll move to the next one but I

3083
02:16:30,620 --> 02:16:27,840
thought was pretty cool man yeah yeah

3084
02:16:33,970 --> 02:16:30,630
definitely so shout out to you Robbie

3085
02:16:36,230 --> 02:16:33,980
thank you so much for all the track's

3086
02:16:39,440 --> 02:16:36,240
super cool man yeah definitely

3087
02:16:41,720 --> 02:16:39,450
appreciate it dude I mean like it seems

3088
02:16:44,810 --> 02:16:41,730
like you know this was kind of a journey

3089
02:16:48,590 --> 02:16:44,820
that we set off you know on like kind of

3090
02:16:50,959 --> 02:16:48,600
by ourselves yeah and it liked it with

3091
02:16:53,600 --> 02:16:50,969
it with every episode I feel like

3092
02:16:56,810 --> 02:16:53,610
there's more and more of a team yeah

3093
02:16:59,900 --> 02:16:56,820
that like you know nobody else sees but

3094
02:17:01,400 --> 02:16:59,910
like you know we've made so many friends

3095
02:17:03,709 --> 02:17:01,410
yeah we got so many people willing to

3096
02:17:05,900 --> 02:17:03,719
help us out so many people wanted like

3097
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:05,910
willing to talk to us right I mean

3098
02:17:09,560 --> 02:17:07,770
everybody's just been so nice about this

3099
02:17:11,660 --> 02:17:09,570
whole thing and like giving up their

3100
02:17:12,590 --> 02:17:11,670
time out of their night just to talk to

3101
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:12,600
us for free

3102
02:17:16,970 --> 02:17:14,250
like I mean yeah we're plugging their

3103
02:17:20,360 --> 02:17:16,980
stuff but like dude you can't ask for

3104
02:17:23,060 --> 02:17:20,370
that like Norman oh yeah you can't ask

3105
02:17:24,470 --> 02:17:23,070
for that apparently cuz I mean everyone

3106
02:17:26,330 --> 02:17:24,480
that we've talked to I love that idea

3107
02:17:28,700 --> 02:17:26,340
like we are kind of building a team yeah

3108
02:17:31,070 --> 02:17:28,710
yeah and the mission is just to get this

3109
02:17:32,690 --> 02:17:31,080
stuff out there and talk about it people

3110
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:32,700
know about it and it's just kind of a

3111
02:17:39,140 --> 02:17:35,610
self-fulfilling yeah Shema we're super

3112
02:17:41,150 --> 02:17:39,150
appreciative appreciative appreciative

3113
02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:41,160
yeah about the whole thing

3114
02:17:45,050 --> 02:17:43,200
so thank you to everybody who's helped

3115
02:17:47,300 --> 02:17:45,060
us out thank you to everybody who's

3116
02:17:50,390 --> 02:17:47,310
donated they heard everybody who just

3117
02:17:53,240 --> 02:17:50,400
watches and enjoys it I mean if it

3118
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:53,250
wasn't for all of you guys I mean you

3119
02:17:57,620 --> 02:17:55,170
know we we would just be talking to

3120
02:17:59,959 --> 02:17:57,630
ourselves in a bar yeah exactly but the

3121
02:18:02,240 --> 02:17:59,969
fact that we have listeners all the time

3122
02:18:03,530 --> 02:18:02,250
it's just man thank you all for

3123
02:18:05,740 --> 02:18:03,540
listening I really appreciate it yeah

3124
02:18:09,890 --> 02:18:05,750
yeah thank you stand watching on YouTube

3125
02:18:12,370 --> 02:18:09,900
dumb faces and I think you know dude I

3126
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:12,380
mean I feel like our guest quality is

3127
02:18:16,839 --> 02:18:15,170
is really just gonna go up yeah from

3128
02:18:18,700 --> 02:18:16,849
here I mean every guest that we've had

3129
02:18:21,700 --> 02:18:18,710
on we haven't had bad guests yet yeah

3130
02:18:23,350 --> 02:18:21,710
has been just phenomenal yeah it's it's

3131
02:18:25,389 --> 02:18:23,360
really unreal the amount of people that

3132
02:18:28,480 --> 02:18:25,399
we've been able to talk to you it's

3133
02:18:30,459 --> 02:18:28,490
really crazy super super cool man yeah I

3134
02:18:33,639 --> 02:18:30,469
haven't been disappointed with a guest

3135
02:18:36,490 --> 02:18:33,649
yet yeah and and they get a lot of a lot

3136
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:36,500
of positive positive feedback too man so

3137
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:39,050
that's really really cool

3138
02:18:44,290 --> 02:18:41,210
you know we enjoy feedback so you guys

3139
02:18:46,120 --> 02:18:44,300
listen and let us know what you think we

3140
02:18:47,589 --> 02:18:46,130
want feedback you know we want to make

3141
02:18:50,110 --> 02:18:47,599
this show better we want to continue to

3142
02:18:52,839 --> 02:18:50,120
put out good content and keep you

3143
02:18:55,419 --> 02:18:52,849
laughing and keep you informed I mean

3144
02:18:57,610 --> 02:18:55,429
yeah I think our platform is really just

3145
02:18:59,379 --> 02:18:57,620
like two dudes drinking beer talking

3146
02:18:59,919 --> 02:18:59,389
about UFOs and aliens and all things

3147
02:19:04,360 --> 02:18:59,929
weird

3148
02:19:12,009 --> 02:19:04,370
absolutely absolutely gotta stay true to

3149
02:19:14,650 --> 02:19:12,019
the course being true to the cause so

3150
02:19:17,679 --> 02:19:14,660
guys don't forget go check out UFO go

3151
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:17,689
wrong oh dude we got new t-shirts check

3152
02:19:23,770 --> 02:19:21,920
it out it's the Impala and we got the

3153
02:19:26,290 --> 02:19:23,780
the new Impala with the the alien being

3154
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:26,300
abducted instead right well I should

3155
02:19:31,929 --> 02:19:28,160
pull up the gentleman's name that that

3156
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:31,939
was his idea that's gonna take too much

3157
02:19:36,520 --> 02:19:33,889
yeah it's way it's way back way back

3158
02:19:39,219 --> 02:19:36,530
it's way back but yeah one of our guests

3159
02:19:42,370 --> 02:19:39,229
or one of our listeners requested this

3160
02:19:44,410 --> 02:19:42,380
design and we made it in like one day so

3161
02:19:45,879 --> 02:19:44,420
it came out good and I love this one

3162
02:19:47,770 --> 02:19:45,889
because it's super simple but I'm gonna

3163
02:19:52,800 --> 02:19:47,780
change it so it's a little it's kind of

3164
02:19:57,400 --> 02:19:52,810
off yeah so we'll up high right now yeah

3165
02:19:59,290 --> 02:19:57,410
yeah dude awesome well yeah man oh we're

3166
02:20:02,020 --> 02:19:59,300
gonna have some more more guests coming

3167
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:02,030
on pretty soon we got what are you still

3168
02:20:07,120 --> 02:20:04,010
doing Friday Sunday

3169
02:20:07,870 --> 02:20:07,130
so just Sunday right now yes okay Sunday

3170
02:20:09,340 --> 02:20:07,880
okay

3171
02:20:10,990 --> 02:20:09,350
all right have a guess for Friday if we

3172
02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:11,000
want to do a guest for Friday we might

3173
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:12,890
just do a goofy one on Friday know

3174
02:20:16,480 --> 02:20:14,930
whatever you want but guys to kind of

3175
02:20:18,690 --> 02:20:16,490
you know build stuff up because you're

3176
02:20:21,900 --> 02:20:18,700
having a baby soon so I

3177
02:20:24,030 --> 02:20:21,910
yeah count it yeah yeah but Sunday's

3178
02:20:28,200 --> 02:20:24,040
gonna be a big one guys

3179
02:20:31,020 --> 02:20:28,210
I mean he's we got it set up I'm just

3180
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:31,030
waiting for him to confirm the time yeah

3181
02:20:36,421 --> 02:20:33,730
we have Terry Lovelace coming on the

3182
02:20:40,110 --> 02:20:36,431
show he's written a book called incident

3183
02:20:42,180 --> 02:20:40,120
at Devil's Den I'm super excited that's

3184
02:20:43,801 --> 02:20:42,190
an awesome story I can't wait for you

3185
02:20:47,460 --> 02:20:43,811
guys to hear it if you haven't heard of

3186
02:20:49,591 --> 02:20:47,470
them and if you hadn't and we haven't

3187
02:20:51,720 --> 02:20:49,601
put the show out yet maybe look him up

3188
02:20:54,841 --> 02:20:51,730
do a little bit of research on him and I

3189
02:20:56,730 --> 02:20:54,851
mean the guy's story is awesome yeah I

3190
02:20:59,250 --> 02:20:56,740
love it so I'm super excited to have him

3191
02:21:01,620 --> 02:20:59,260
on and and talk with him he's gonna be

3192
02:21:03,870 --> 02:21:01,630
cool too because he's a local guy he's

3193
02:21:07,261 --> 02:21:03,880
in the Texas area as well so yeah that

3194
02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:07,271
time will be you know easy too easy to

3195
02:21:11,040 --> 02:21:09,760
match that's awesome yeah man well he

3196
02:21:12,390 --> 02:21:11,050
could be in the studio right he could

3197
02:21:14,370 --> 02:21:12,400
come in the studio or do you think he's

3198
02:21:17,370 --> 02:21:14,380
too far away anything he's too far okay

3199
02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:17,380
well yeah all right next time but yeah

3200
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:20,290
all right man I broke all right so is